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But since, from your name, you appear to have a twin, there will at least be one of you left to try something else flyable, after your demise. What are you building...Perhaps you can post pictures of your work soothers can learn?

Soundz perfect for me. My wife says I can pitch a tent just about anywhere....

John Denver put, I forget, 2 maybe 3 cushions under and behind him and look where it got him. I still say build to suit the pilot. Unless you are planning on changing out the pilot. How many guys are going to loan their plane out to somebody? Not many I would venture. Build that seat bottom to rise up properly underneath your thighs if you are shorter. Or build the seat/thigh risers and 1-1/2" riser bottom as a unit that can be unscrewed/screwed/removed and a standard one installed, should you sell the plane. Cut out an inch+ on the lower pilot IP. An Efis takes up much less room than a sixpack of instruments there, so a bit less tall panel there is no problem. Putting a Sears Roebuck catalog or triple inch foam under a short pilots butt just looks so un-custom, when it is so easy to make things out of fiberglass. Plus you can say, " yea I made that..it's custom fit to my personal liking. Cool.

Then build the whole seat assembly on a 1-1/2inch block higher up so you can see over the IP just fine. Its YOUR airplane, and simple quick fiberglass work... Customize it!!! Marc, without calling out names, several have in the past claimed to have achieved some degree of nirvana of the mile high variety. Perhaps double jointed, perhaps hobbit sized persons, I dunno. Heck, Jerry Schneider got out of his seatbelt flipped over and mooned cheeks skyward at that commercial airliner...and he's a good sized guy. So the mechanics I leave up to the couples creativity. But the seat belt remark has been made in the past. Me, I am going to be doin' good just concentrating on flying the darn airplane, let alone contemplating such shenanigans. But other more accomplished pilots...YMMV. Please, no Billy Barty jokes...restrain yourself.

I apologize for my post 15 sarcasm. Was said by others planning to fly with their significant others[was it Slade?]...that the less complicated the seatbelting...the easier for "mile-highing"....Just a point to ponder when thinking about all those points and straps and such.... LongEze drivers will have to sit this feature out...

Makes you wonder though about the guys using the 5 point rigs. But this brings up my tongue in cheek point about engineering all sorts of extras into the plane for 'possible' scenarios...when the plane is pretty well thought out as it is. In the end its a experimental airplane and whatever you feel is pertinent, you are allowed to do. [i think you did a plywood under belly under your seat...or something like that]. But for the actual past # of people sliding out from under a snugged plans Cozy lapp belt in a crash...I dont think you NEED to change to a six point. If you have sat in a Cozy, you note that the reclining position with a snugged belt wont lend itself to allowing you forward motion- unless the lapp belt breaks....because you butt is LOWER than your thighs and knees. YOU aint going forward.

Thats a good point. Easily gliding out and under in an instant stop. That happens all the time with thses chrashing planes. Maybe a six point would be better. A 5 point would render you impoytent in an instant stop. At the very least squish it into uselessness...yechhh- those pesky Gee-forces. After the crash in a 5 point, you'd look down and say, " GEEE, I wish that was still attached to me"... Tmann has a 8 point. Jerry S. has a 10 point ''web' in his SpidermanCozy he dubbed, ''Webslinger''. Me. I just have a single point. Right on top of my head.

If the 8.6 inch wide bolt location chafes you, you can also use the 2 inch wide belts which are sometimes listed as JR racing belts/harness'. They are a bit more flexible than the common 3 inch, and some guys like that they aren't biting on ones neck. Here's a pic of some G-Force ones that have a standard seat belt buckle type lock. 79.99 Three colors, Safe Racer Company probably Summit has them too.

Speaking of CoyIII's and widths. Burrall Sanders made a CozyIII ,with I believe, a 6 inch wider front seat dim. Extended the nose and put a big haulin' azz 360 in it....and claims near warp factor performance. I dont disagree with him...by the numbers it looks like it should be a crankin' machine!! I love the wasp shaped rear end of the CozyIII. The Cozy IV is wider and at the max end of the visual allowance for my tastes. I had a picture somewheres of the backseat of a CozyIII. You could fit Fat Albert in that monsterous single backseat. Incidentally Chrissi- very clever about the 2 Nats wide comment. =) Possibly truer than we might imagine? Remember the Front seat weight arbitrary "limit" at the designers discretion. Hey, they are all nice planes and he did a great job.

Cozy IV's are 42 inches at the mid shoulders. III's are narrower at the same location, but dont know exactly...I think its 39 or 40 inches.

Marc has always been a proponent of keeping ones battery on the firewall, near cg, and out of the nose, thus not infringing on the front seat capacity by having fixed battery weight in the nose, but have MOVABLE ballast weight up there so that if you want to load up the front seat you can. (Hows that for a run-on sentence?) I like that way of thinking. FWIW.

I still thing the deplorable drag device has not only a catchy ring, but would definably set your aircraft apart from all others on the ramp. This is not to encourage transgender dressing in any fashion. That kind of drag device is not appropriate in the Cozy atmosphere. However Dame Edna has been discussed on the other forum before and hopefully will not become enamoured with the Cozy lifestyle. Ahemmm... YMMV.

Just speaking out of my proverbial hindquarters here. The ventral fins would just be achieving some draggy bits aft in order to hoist it skyward and would seem that it simply needs to be behind CG. But the farter aft the better. Just my idea.

Would add some weight- but add a deployable drag device to one wing outboard of the aileron. Pop it out to get a wing up on the situation. Or the right seater could just start grabbing the ballast out of the baskseat footwells [that was placed there because the ballast was moved since flying solo] and start putting in his seat to get some weight forward. Or....just keep track of you w/b.... Hmmmmm, somebody said that.

Build it EXACTLY to plans. No electric noselift, minimal VFR instruments and stack, etc. etc. No Cozygoirrrls strakes or heavier matco 3 puck brakes. All this is if you are wanting the absolute minimal weight. If you want to start adding 'comforts' like a elec noselift etc...you are making weight concessions. Not many people have managed to duplicate Nats original empty weight of 1050#'s.

I want one. Dont know what I am going to put it on, but I want one. Whut is this guys typical designed fuel consumption values?

...not 440lbs. My IO540 parallel head, narrow deck, weighs 408 lbs. 280hp. Angle heads weigh more- Cozy applications dont want that.

Big Steve is eyeing all this,I just know. Make some dandy beehives for ya Steve.

Glad you posted some more pics, Tmann. Post #9 was looking like Beldar the Conehead was your inspiration...

Oh shut up and go weld something...or build some more sexy curved strakes ....we are all incredibly envious!!!Wheres the machine gun icon when you need it..??????

In that overhead satellite photo I liked how that Vari was neatly parked in similar fashion to all the other planes... Prop and big wing facing forward, little wing with elevators facing backwards... just like all planes should. The ramp guys are very orderly there!!!

If you think one way or the other will save resin weight or not, dont worry about the 4 pounds on the airframe...lose it off your gut. Net result is your planes gross weight is the same.. and you will live longer and be happier. As a sidenote. Nobody is going to notice your plane is 4 pounds one way or the other...but 4-10 pounds off YOU, and you will look and feel better.

Congradulations gianmarko! It is good to finally realize a dream!!! We hope everything works out GREAT for you and that LongEze purchase!

Pretty dang clever.

I still dont understand this train of questions. If you need a 720's characteristics you need a 720. How can a 540 be an option? "...540 just as good a buy"??? what does that mean?