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Whoaaa Lynn... Hold on there. That was pretty harsh. Weird place for a fuel sight tube, granted. But lets live and let live. ...Maybe that how the plans read down in Duxburry. =)

Looks pretty up to date on that panel.=) Great looking plane...always loved the shapes. Very ''anti-plane''looking. Why are these a handful on the ground? Squirrly at taxi in what way? How does you panel weight compare to the sixpack. The airgizos is going to house a 396? Again, great looking effort. I would like one of these in my hanger, just because it is so outrageously cool!! =) Whats your engine?

Say there Marc, did that fellow at Scaled get any farther with his detachable fuel pods? I would sure like to know and maybe get a hold of him? Thanks. =)

Wolf. It's said that there are ONLY two types of Eze drivers, one that it has happened to and the other is the one is yet to have it. You got that checked, and out of the way!! The only other one statistically is fuel starvation from inattention. Leave that one alone.

Hmmm? Maybe down he road I can recertify my 540 Cozy without the rear seats [drill out the pop rivets] and call it an LSA. Kind of an overpowered LSA, but maybe nobody will notice. What do I do about the landing speed, etc? I thought there were performance REQUIREMENTS other than cruise capability.

For the record, I am glad for you guys/gals efforts in the ''experimentation'' dept of EAA. We all are ''experimenting to some degree. Only good on ya. =) No harm, no fowl.

Thanks BigSteve. Is it just me, or does this terrafug-uglia remind you of a "Herbie" sprouts wings bastardization...with Annette Funicello and DickVanDyke as the loving gad parents? Sorry for the flatulent response to this creation.

Was that Pope Lamar, Chrissi? Ther-heretical? =) Interesting fill-in Chris...All I ever heard from Buly is he changed to a Lyc and is glad to never look back. He wasn't happy with the whole rotary/ hold the rosary, everytime he went flying. Now he is cross-country flying all the time and luvin it. I dont know, I wasnt there.=/ Glad you got that Oring outa there.

Sorry to begin this hijack, but what Hp does that 20b put out without a turbo at 5000rpm, TMann? I dont recall you wanting to turbo it...am I correct? For my ignorance, is the cooling issues...with the cooler placement for a non-turboed rotary or a blowered rotary? I think Buly was running a non-turbo? Thanks.

Conversation started as..."We ARE all getting olddddd and will need an LSA in the future". Then it went to canards...and some dissagreementing. I think a VariEze is too slippery to be "converted" into a E-LSA. What would need to be "done" to one to meet LSA requirements? I got money that it cant be done. Regretfully.

You really would appreciate that other forum I was talking about. Give dust a try. Be careful who you listen to out there, and who you frag...its all not as it seems.

Theres a guy named dust who runs another canard forum that you might find agreeable to your labeling of Marc. He's a wealth of interesting information as an alternative to our Marc here. Go see if his brandy is more to your liking. I'd rather the spicy straight shooter, than the alternative .

Kupo. Dont take the respondent posts as flippant acidity..it is kind of more like a REALITY check. While a few here are hoping to use them, the Mazda rotary is not receiving rave reviews in the canard world as far as USERS with successful installations...[only one I know of]so a startup company/product rotary isnt going to be met with Cheshire grins and backslapping here in our application. The Ross redrives were kind of in the niche you are describing...out there on the fringe application, but limping along. All it took was a change in ownership/overseership and the product went from fair to crap. Lots of guys share there woes of the past here about buying things that were supposed to be the catsazz and unhappily turned out to be just be a warmfart. Good money wasted. Marc may sound harsh..but you did ask for opnion from our group and he pretty much nailed my thoughts, based on how many rotarys are actually flying in canard configurations. I dont see smaller LSA versions as any different Sorry...and good luck. =/ Just my 2 cents

Monty Hall here. LMAD. I have the Cozy IV Longerons in the factory shipped plywood box for sale if anybody wants them. I cant remember what they cost. Never opened. They are from AircrapftSpruce.

Yea, What Chrissi said. If you found you really wanted a swamp cooler. Plus you could glass a custom fit and shaped to the rear seat footbed unit that would fit beautifully behind the left front seatback and be an in and out appliance. [changing from a 4place to 3 place airplane- but still allowing nothing intruding into the adjacent passenger seat for comforts sake.] Run a cigarette adapter for power and have a top mounted hopper for ice- a drain. I wonder how compact it could be, cubic inches wise, and still function well?

Brown= not pretty??? Just think of your parts as having gone to the beach and got a dark "tan"...=)

Was said regarding using the heat, to be careful when using the heat gun. Maybe just vernacular, but a decent wattage hairdryer provides plenty of heat without buying and using a huge wattage heat GUN. Thats a LOT of heat capability that might get you in trouble if on a higher setting. I offered to commandeer my daughters Conair hairdryer and buy her a newer fangled one a couple years ago...she was delighted..and we both got the tool we needed! Just my .02

Salmon eggs? I was thinking measles. That dynon is a wedgie!

Pretty dang funny Tmann! [tip of the hat]. However there are the breeders and the bleeders and there's at least one Cozybuilder who thinks and builds scary stuff and touts it as worthy of flight. Everybody do their own homework, so as to be a breeder, not a ....

I happened upon that observation when I mocked up my strakes and the wider elbow position, so I concluded I needed to build my own stick grips as a solution. Having done so, I built my own grips so that they ''work'' while flying in cruise so as to allow me to grip the top like a knob and still work the push to talk with my forefinger. This will allow me to keep my elbow out in the strake [as I have mocked t up anyway. read that as mocked, not mucked...done some of that too.] I think the Ray Allen ones might be okay with the elbow out/ hold it like a knob config, but I wanted the PTT, so my hand wouldn't have to move.

Me.. have a "short complex"...naw....No Top Gun music for me! [it's almost 8 AM- I better get to work as well.] BTW- isnt TomCruise a short guy? They always put him next to similar sized people so you neverwould really know. I guess the title sounded better than Maveric, "Short Gun".

Regarding the Cozy's elbow room. As is common knowledge, there are many installing the wider elbow, Longeze strakes in the Cozy [aka, Cozygirrrls Strakes] so that side to side roomieness is occuring in a Cozy. For reference, I am 5-11 and have wide shoulders and do not touch the longerons, but with the wider elbow strake ergonomics, the width of the plane is enhanced greatly. Bottom line as everybody says, sit in these planes and then you can judge. If you cant, wait, if it is that important. Simpleton me, I just thought a side by side canard airplane was a gift from God, as I had given up on the thought of building a canard and getting a pilots license in the 1980's when my wife said she wouldn't like to sit in back on trips, and be all ''alone'', back there. I never knew a side by side canard had been done and available until 2005 when I ran across a picture on the internet and within a few days ordered chaps 4,5,6,7 without even seeing one in person. About a month and a half later I found out about and attended the Canards de Mayo event in northern Calif. A Cozy IV flier there let me sit in his plane and I was confirmed in my decision to have a CozyIV. I also confirmed the wider strakes would be a nice addition. That summer, I went to Osh, met Marc and he was generous in letting me fly both in back and in the right seat to and from Fondeulac [sp]. To me the side by side seating is a must-have feature for enjoyment of the traveling experience. Maybe not to you. The sleek shape of the Cozy is a bit more favorable in my eyes than a Velocity[except for Constable Chris' Velocity =)], and much more affordable, so thankfully the sleeker plane and cost effective airframe went together. The only thing I did visually to my Cozy was extend the nose, and that has been done to the CozyIII also. The CozyIII has the side by side seating, and a huge amount of stowage for gear/luggage in that backseat. Most everybody who has a Long, wishes there was more room for stowage and many end up putting wing pods on to allow you to carry more than a backpack and some small strake packages. I have seen some couples offload after arriving at an airshow and the GIB comes out of the backseat greatful to not be cramped or crammed together with everything they brought in back.[small bag under her knees/on top of her feet/on top of her lap/stuffed in each strake opening-to the sides of each knee] Some even UPS their belongings by shipping to where they will be staying for their lodging. I only found out about all this after I had started building. I still think a long nosed LongEze is WAYCOOL looking, just not quite as versatile for my needs. But maybe just right for your needs. So just food for thought. The III would be more versatile, just add the Cozygirrrl strakes, maybe widen the seatback width 2 inches to match a MarkIV and you've got a winner. The side by side seating is something that you really need to consider. I'll go on record as saying that yet again. I wouldn't build the III into a tandem seating arrangement[you cant get rid of the center heat duct anyway]. It's way more fun and practical, side by side, as aside from nice eye contact, you can share the stick with your girlfriend and she can relieve you for a while on long trips. As a sidenote, if you were to become incapacitated, the right seater can land the plane. YMMV

Wishing you well, on all fronts. =)

Reference question to what was HE building, and if perchance he works on his articulated canard, there might be photos so as to enlighten others with his hair-pulling exploits [mods]. I try not to post my own hair-pulling exploits anymore, but wanted others to benifit from HIS. I know...I am a siccccck man. =)

Hey Longeze'rs. I have heard of folks wanting a bit WIDER Longeze, but not stretching the thing. Whats up with that? Is that a fairly desired thing, if given the chance to alter in new construction? Disregard this post. Saw the discussion on the other thread.