I'm amazed as well. The life changing contrasts is what gets to me. How does one become a project engineer from being a fisherman for 22 years? I California, most expensive State to live! I live in a rust belt area of the U.S. Most of us go through life living breathing, eating, sleeping automotive. There is no living here without it. Regardless of your career here, you are affected by it. I do it, my father, grandfathers, friends, relatives, doctors, lawyers, all related. You can be a plumber here but you'll remortgage your home if the auto industry takes a dive. I'm an engineer. Never drew a single car except when I was a kid. I was in Quality, a programmer when there was only such things as DOS and no icons, tier 1 supplier development, purchasing, now a different type of engineer. The titles/jobs were/are indirectly related to the actual work. Most recent career is squeezing $$ out of my suppliers for a fair price. Funny how a few cents can become millions. Not living the dream yet myself but paying the bills and I thank God for that. Far too gray here too long. I'm ready to pound nails, plant trees, or open a DQ on the coast somewhere else any time now.