Brian DeFord Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Ok, just suppose you could dream the perfect canard aircraft - what would you wish for? I'm talking about mission, performance, seating, cost, plans, kit or off the shelf. Secondarily, if the powerplant were a constraint would it be a single or twin engine? how about piston (deisel, avgas?), rotary or turbine? What about retracts? Let's assume you have a blank sheet of paper. If you want to compare it to a current design that's OK, just don't be encumbered by the past in your thinking. Who knows...Santa may be listening. Quote Brian DeFord Cozy MK-IV N309BD 'Blonde Streak' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairboy Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Mission: IFR cross country. Performance: 250-300Kts at FL25 Seating: 5 (two in front, bench or 3 in back) Cost: free, of course. Barring that, <$100k US for build Kit for wings/canards, etc. Plans or QB for the rest Single engine, IO-540 or smaller. Fixed gear, including the front (no grazing) Pressurized cabin. Sounds a lot like a Velocity XL5, I guess... but different. Quote Ben Hallert - http://hallert.net/cozy/ - Chapter 1 - EAA Chapter#31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian DeFord Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 Here's my list: Mission: IFR cross country Performance: 250-300Kts Seating: 6 (2+2+2), single side door entry Cabin width: ~60" Gear: Fixed Single engine, deisel. Useful load: 2000lb - 1500lb (passengers+300lb baggage area) + full fuel (500lb ~70 gal) Cost: <$60k US materials (less engine & avionics) Plans built w/ quick construction techniques for airframe (<1000hrs) Quote Brian DeFord Cozy MK-IV N309BD 'Blonde Streak' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 For what it's worth, here's my list: Mission: VFR cross country Performance: ~200Kts Range: 800nm Take-off/Landing: operate comfortably in 2,500 foot strips (w/obstacles, at 100' MSL) Seating: 4+ (2+2+, 4 adults and 2 gym bags) Entry: Front: dual side door w/forward opening canopy; Rear: single- or dual-gull door Cabin width: 44" Gear: Fixed Engine: Lycoming IO-360 or equivalent Useful load: 1,000lb Cost: <$35k US materials (less engine & avionics) Kit/Plans: 100% Plans built w/quick-build OPTIONS I would trade fuel capacity and range for the additional room, while keeping performance numbers comparable to or better than the Cozy Mark IV. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Gifford Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 First, start with the Cozy MKIV Short, rought field capable. 200 kts. 4-5 seater. Complete plans built, with quick build options. More powerplant options. Steerable nose wheel. Really, what I would like to see is just a slightly larger Cozy with better leg room. If you are looking for something really neat to get for Christmas visit the The CozyGirrrls website for their composite tool deal at Wicks. Quote Nathan Gifford Tickfaw, LA USA Cozy Mk IV Plans Set 1330 Better still --> Now at CH 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverquit Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 MY very own Ratheon Starship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Evansic Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Neverquit, You beat me! The only thing I'd want more was one of those that I didn't have to pay an arm and a leg to have fixed. Then again, if I Santa could afford to get me one, he could afford to leave a maintenance and fuel account in my name too. -- Len Quote -- Len Evansic, Cozy Mk. IV Plans #1283 Do you need a Flightline Chair, or other embroidered aviation accessory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Just to be clear, I don't want to appear as a Lycoming/Budweiser/Ford/Chevy kind-of-guy. I am not. I am open to anything that is better, while also addressing design-for-maintenance and cost of ownership issues. With that said I would like to change my engine specification to the following: Dilithium crystal-powered warp core hyperdriveRumor has it that the SpaceShipThree skunkworks team is considering this exact powerplant and is in talks with a company named In-a-dime. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverquit Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Okay, I change my wish too. A dilithium crystal-powered warp core hyperdrive Beech Starship amphib with STOL capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Evansic Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 ... with a chain gun and/or a tractor beam. or with-a-compass-in-the-stock-and-a-thing-that-tells-time:D -- Len Quote -- Len Evansic, Cozy Mk. IV Plans #1283 Do you need a Flightline Chair, or other embroidered aviation accessory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.Zwakenberg Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 well, for this year: just something flying, anything, so that I don't have to rent anymore... For the following years.... anything of the above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gupri Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I'd be very happy with an INFINITY 1, with Subaru SVX 3.3 L turbo and intercooler at about 350 hp. This tandem 2-seater aircraft's Vne of 400kts (460 mph or 740 km/h) surely makes it something out of the ordinary - and economical at the same time. With a kit price of less than $33,000 and a range in excess of 1600 miles, it's the closest we'll come to a personal fighter aircraft at a reasonable price. gupri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Zeitlin Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 I'd be very happy with an INFINITY 1, with Subaru SVX 3.3 L turbo and intercooler at about 350 hp. This tandem 2-seater aircraft's Vne of 400kts (460 mph or 740 km/h) surely makes it something out of the ordinary - and economical at the same time. With a kit price of less than $33,000 and a range in excess of 1600 miles, it's the closest we'll come to a personal fighter aircraft at a reasonable price. gupri If only it existed. Oh, right. This is just a wish list for non-existent aircraft. Quote Marc J. Zeitlin Burnside Aerospace marc_zeitlin@alum.mit.edu www.cozybuilders.org copyright © 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Gifford Posted December 11, 2005 Share Posted December 11, 2005 Wassa matter Marc? Ya' know they could deliver 400 kts with 350hp. My only question is can they do that in level flight! Quote Nathan Gifford Tickfaw, LA USA Cozy Mk IV Plans Set 1330 Better still --> Now at CH 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairboy Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Technically, 400 is the VnE, and the stated level cruise is in the 300mph range. Quote Ben Hallert - http://hallert.net/cozy/ - Chapter 1 - EAA Chapter#31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I'll change my wish for something a little more realistic. I want this one to fall into my lap: http://www.barnstormers.com/listing.php?id=86900 Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairboy Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Indeed, the Blonde Streak there is pretty much what I visualize when I think about building a Cozy Mk IV. Great build logs that I've pored over for hours, and a beautiful looking plane. Quote Ben Hallert - http://hallert.net/cozy/ - Chapter 1 - EAA Chapter#31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonFrog Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Piaggio Avanti II past that a diesel powered berkut with ~2000nm range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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