MoneySink Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 I'm looking for the "Ronneburg" and "Cobb" long nose plans. Please e-mail me privately if you have a copy for sale. Quote
David A. C. Orr Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Probably already told you this - I have them. Beagle Quote
N1966Z Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Hi Beagle, I also need a nose job, can you sell me a copy of plans, Thanks, Bob Mencl Quote I don't care what you think, as long as you're thinkin'
Cozy1200 Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Probably already told you this - I have them. Beagle Beagle, Please enlighten us. Quote Drew Chaplin (aka the Foam Whisperer) --- www.Cozy1200.com - I'm a builder now! --- Brace for impact...
David A. C. Orr Posted February 13, 2009 Posted February 13, 2009 There were actually two versions of long nose plans. One by Sam Kreidel, one by Ronneberg/Cobb. The latter I give a $5 check to when I sell the $10 plans, plus postage. About 50 people have copied them and the plane looks so much prettier. You should have seen my first nose... I think my current Dave Lind Long EZ nose is close to the Ronneberg nose - hit me if you want photos of Ronneberg noses. But don't wait for me to look for messages on Canardzone - use Canardfinder@att.net Beagle Quote
Cozy Girrrl Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 Drewby, What you want is the nose from the 4 place Berkut, now that was cool. I don't know if they did anything beyond the molded tub? ..Chrissi Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo
WolfManSpecial Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 ¿what that about a 4 place berkut??? Quote
Cozy Girrrl Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 To my knowledge only a tub was molded... Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo
Cozy1200 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Interesting, here's the web page with those photos. it took a little searching. http://web.archive.org/web/20000226162828/http://berkut.com/four.htm Quote Drew Chaplin (aka the Foam Whisperer) --- www.Cozy1200.com - I'm a builder now! --- Brace for impact...
BLUE MAX Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I used the Dave Lind copy of a copy template and made my nose. As you can see from this picture it took me a couple of times to get it right. This part of the plane is the only part that is totally free hand. And for some people it only takes one time to get it right...for me it took 4 times to get the right shape. WELL...I am happy, (finally ) with this result. Quote Tom McCormick http://tomslongez.com Almost done the nose section.
Super-eze Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 Chrissi Is there any market for Cozy Girrrls to manufacture and sell pre-molded components? For instance a completed canard/elevator and all sub components. Would builders pay for such a thing and would it be profitable for you? Quote Keith.
Cozy Girrrl Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 We're purposely staying out of the composite components market. There are already vendors making some good parts, if you want really good premade canards, spars, wings and winglets contact Dennis Olemann in Iowa, he makes the best, he uses our metal, minimal fill and finish required. ...Chrissi Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo
BLUE MAX Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 YES...what Chrissi said...Dennis makes the best parts...PERIOD!!!! Quote Tom McCormick http://tomslongez.com Almost done the nose section.
WolfManSpecial Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 hello:dennis Olemann have internet page?? Quote
Cozy Girrrl Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 hello:dennis Olemann have internet page??No, email FlyCozy - at - aol - dot - comtake out the spaces and dashes, yada yada, tell him we sent you. ...Chrissi Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo
goatherder Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 Man...a four place Burkut. With a 400hp LS1 in it. I am in lust. Well, if such a thing existed I would be... Quote Marc Oppelt Olympia, WA http://picasaweb.google.com/oh.u8it2
TMann Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 Man...a four place Burkut. With a 400hp LS1 in it. I am in lust. I heard it was going to be marketed as the "Grand CanardaVan". Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done
Super-eze Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 Chrissi, Thanks for the info. Quote Keith.
Super-eze Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 Chrissi, Can I ask why you have decided not to get into composite components? Is it economic, responsibility, the mess? Quote Keith.
Cozy Girrrl Posted February 18, 2009 Posted February 18, 2009 Chrissi, Can I ask why you have decided not to get into composite components? Is it economic, responsibility, the mess? Many reasons, first and formost there are really good people like Dennis Olemann already making really good parts at reasonable prices, he is also a customer of ours for the metal parts involved. Why compete with that?Second, I am allergic to the epoxy now. Third, its too much work for little return. Forth, its a huge pain shipping those kind of parts. Fifth, for the molded parts there are no ethics in the molded glass industry; one person with some talent slaves away and comes up with good designs and tooling, everybody else buys a set of parts and pops molds off of them. A close friend during the van craze in the 70's was that Alpha person down in Houston. The dealers would send him the first year model they received, he'd mask it off and come up with all of the original glass, he's the guy that came up with the U-shaped rooftop spoiler etc, almost all other glass on the US market was ripped off from his parts..pop offs. Same for the boat industry, a lot of the same hull and several "new" decks. He died young from chemical exposure so where was the reward? Sorry for the rant. We're in the metal business because its something we can do reasonably well and can automate and then fine tune the processes. All the time spent on design, making tooling and programming can be recovered if we make more than a handfull of parts. That cannot be done for composites (easily)(or without a lot of mess) We also do this so that we can have the best parts available to put in our own plane. Lastly, we do this because of all the businesses and professions we have done in our lives this is more fun, interesting and the customer base is a real nice bunch of people. ...Chrissi & Randi Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo
Super-eze Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 All excellent reasons! Without a doubt you are correct about the knock-off industry I appreciate the conversation. Quote Keith.
TMann Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 Can I ask why you have decided not to get into composite components?It is very difficult to get into that market especially in a plans built aircraft market. Look at some of the kit prices for velocity, Berkut and the like. Everyone wants them to get into that market but they are not willing to pay the price when it comes down to it. A lot of the quick build RV kits are assembled in the Philipines where labor costs are lower. Then you have to deal with the lasting criticism of those who are not even customers. Not something I would venture into. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done
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