172 pilot Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Good Day All, First post on CZ, presently a 90 hr private pilot (Dec. 2018) and 1/2 way through my instrument ticket. Always loved Rutan’s Vari/Long Eze’s... Recently came across a 3/4 built VariEze for sale and looking for someone w/ experience in evaluating these planes. I would also like to fly in one sometime prior to buying. I live 5 min from KLNS if you want to meet me, Or I can fly my club’s 172 to meet you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Ashton Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Gonna turn this into a sticky on how to find canard owners. 1. First try the member search page here for your state. That is not a great method because the membership list never gets pruned and members often do not identify their state. https://www.canardzone.com/search/?type=core_members&joinedDate=any&group[4]=1&group[3]=1&group[12]=1&group[10]=1&group[6]=1&group[9]=1&group[16]=1 The following sites also have member search pages. They are not very active now and canardcommunity has been closed for a few years but you might get lucky. https://www.canardaviation.com https://www.canardcommunity.com 2. Join the Cozybuilders Google Group and/or the CanardAviators Yahoo group. They are fairly active and you will often get a reply to your message. The two groups are also somewhat redundant. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cozy_builders https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/canard-aviators/info 3. The Central States Association is an well-known canard group that publishes a member directory. The owner also publishes an interesting newsletter. https://www.canardzone.com/csa/csa.html/ 4. David Orr is getting a lot of members to his Squadron III group and he publishes an email newsletter. https://www.facebook.com/SoCalEzGroupSquadronIII/ 5. You can also search the FAA registry by model and bring up names and addresses. Most owners are pretty happy to show you their airplanes. https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/ 6. EAA chapters in your state usually know who is flying what kind of airplane. If you contact Chapter Presidents, they might give you a contact. https://www.eaa.org/eaa/eaa-chapters/find-an-eaa-chapter 7. Rough River (Kentucky) is a pretty big Fall flyin for canards. Might be worth a visit. https://roughriver.org 8. Then there is (yuck) Facebook. You're on your own there. 🙂 Quote -KentCozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
172 pilot Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Thanks! This gives me a couple things to try, and Thanks! for the quick response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony P Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 When I do a Model search on FAA Registry, all it gives me is the manufacturer and nothing else that seems useful. Does anyone know the secret easy way to cross reference this with N-number, and/or current owner, and/or current address? I'm looking for Q2 or Dragonfly in New England. Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Ashton Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) The stupid FAA does not make it easy. This site appears to let you search for all the registrations in a state https://www.aircraftone.com/searchindex.asp You can download the entire FAA database here and search within it with a word processor program. https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/releasable_aircraft_download/ You could do a "Name" search (sorted by N-number) here for "Dragonfly" https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Aircraft_Inquiry.aspx That will return 32 N-numbered Dragonflys. Then you can do an N-number search for each N-number and see the owner information. Or do a Make/Model search for Model "Dragonfly" which will return 323 Dragonfly entries with Manufacturer names, see pic below. If the "Manufacturer" in the 3rd colum is an individual [builder/owner] like Bailey Robert E do an individual Name Inquiry for his name (use the same name format). That will return the N-number for that owner which you can search for all the info. If the 2nd column has highlighted info like NORTH CAROLINA - 1, click on that and it will show you N-number info. If the Manufacturer is a commercial name like AVRO none of this works. Yeah, easy right 😞 Sometimes I see an airplane on craigslist. I do a Wiki search for the Craigslist town and find out what county it in, then I do a State/County search in the registry and see all the aircraft in the county. I can usually find the airplane and the N-number Or you might get lucky with a Google Verbatim search https://www.google.com/webhp?tbs=li:1 Edited July 9, 2020 by Kent Ashton Quote -KentCozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony P Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Thanks Kent. The process you describe here seems to break down if the current owner is not the manufacturer. 18 minutes ago, Kent Ashton said: Or do a Make/Model search for Model "Dragonfly" which will return 323 Dragonfly entries with Manufacturer names, see pic below. If the "Manufacturer" in the 3rd colum is an individual [builder/owner] like Bailey Robert E do an individual Name Inquiry for his name (use the same name format). That will return the N-number for that owner which you can search for all the info. If the 2nd column has highlighted info like NORTH CAROLINA - 1, click on that and it will show you N-number info. If the Manufacturer is a commercial name like AVRO none of this works. Yeah, easy right 😞 Name search only returns current owners and N-numbers for me. Model search only returns manufacturers with no other useful info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bruce Hughes Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 To 172 pilot: Be VERY careful buying a canard. Some are great, some not so great. The Varieze MAY have a problem with the wing attachment. Please ask some owners (I am NOT one of those). The attachment may be (1) fine (2) reparable but nobody TMK has published a repair method (3) not reparable. Kent sent you methods to find Varieze owners; FIND THEM. I know a guy that retired and found that his Vartieze is type 3. Bruce Hughes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Springer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Is the VariEze also in Lancaster? I fly a VariEze in Maryland, not too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Springer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) On 7/9/2020 at 11:50 AM, Kent Ashton said: I am amused to see the JHU Dragonfly show up. That one is headed to Titan! But they probably want to fly one on Earth for a bit. Edited July 15, 2020 by Ron Springer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Ashton Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 28 minutes ago, Ron Springer said: I am amused to see the JHU Dragonfly show up. That one is headed to Titan! But they probably want to fly one on Earth for a bit. Interesting. After one year on Titan and the condition inspection expires, will they ground it? 🙂 Quote -KentCozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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