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Good Day All,

First post on CZ, presently a 90 hr private pilot (Dec. 2018) and 1/2 way through my instrument ticket. Always loved Rutan’s Vari/Long Eze’s...

Recently came across a 3/4 built VariEze for sale and looking for someone w/ experience in evaluating these planes. I would also like to fly in one sometime prior to buying. I live 5 min from KLNS if you want to meet me, Or I can fly my club’s 172 to meet you..

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Gonna turn this into a sticky on how to find canard owners.

1.  First try the member search page here for your state.   That is not a great method because the membership list never gets pruned and members often do not identify their state.

https://www.canardzone.com/search/?type=core_members&joinedDate=any&group[4]=1&group[3]=1&group[12]=1&group[10]=1&group[6]=1&group[9]=1&group[16]=1

The following sites also have member search pages.  They are not very active now and canardcommunity has been closed for a few years but you might get lucky.

https://www.canardaviation.com

https://www.canardcommunity.com

2.  Join the Cozybuilders Google Group and/or the CanardAviators Yahoo group.  They are fairly active and you will often get a reply to your message.  The two groups are also somewhat redundant.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/cozy_builders

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/canard-aviators/info

3.  The Central States Association is an well-known canard group that publishes a member directory.  The owner also publishes an interesting newsletter.

https://www.canardzone.com/csa/csa.html/

4.  David Orr is getting a lot of members to his Squadron III group and he publishes an email newsletter.  https://www.facebook.com/SoCalEzGroupSquadronIII/

5.  You can also search the FAA registry by model and bring up names and addresses.  Most owners are pretty happy to show you their airplanes.

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/

6.  EAA chapters in your state usually know who is flying what kind of airplane.  If you contact Chapter Presidents, they might give you a contact.

https://www.eaa.org/eaa/eaa-chapters/find-an-eaa-chapter

7.  Rough River (Kentucky) is a pretty big Fall flyin for canards.  Might be worth a visit.

https://roughriver.org

8. Then there is (yuck) Facebook.  You're on your own there.  🙂

 

 

 

 


-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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When I do a Model search on FAA Registry, all it gives me is the manufacturer and nothing else that seems useful.

Does anyone know the secret easy way to cross reference this with N-number, and/or current owner, and/or current address?

I'm looking for Q2 or Dragonfly in New England.

Thank you,

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Posted (edited)

The stupid FAA does not make it easy.  This site appears to let you search for all the registrations in a state

https://www.aircraftone.com/searchindex.asp

You can download the entire FAA database here and search within it with a word processor program.  

https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/releasable_aircraft_download/

You could do a "Name" search (sorted by N-number) here for "Dragonfly"   https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Aircraft_Inquiry.aspx  That will return 32 N-numbered Dragonflys.  Then you can do an N-number search  for each N-number and see the owner information.

Or do a Make/Model search for Model "Dragonfly" which will return 323 Dragonfly entries with Manufacturer names, see pic below.  If the "Manufacturer" in the 3rd colum is an individual [builder/owner] like Bailey Robert E do an individual Name Inquiry for his name (use the same name format).   That will return the N-number for that owner which you can search for all the info.  If the 2nd column has highlighted info like NORTH CAROLINA - 1, click on that and it will show you N-number info.  If the Manufacturer is a commercial name like AVRO none of this works.  Yeah, easy right  😞

Sometimes I see an airplane on craigslist.  I do a Wiki search for the Craigslist town and find out what county it in, then I do a State/County search in the registry and see all the aircraft in the county.  I can usually find the airplane and the N-number

Or you might get lucky with a Google Verbatim search   https://www.google.com/webhp?tbs=li:1

 

 

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Edited by Kent Ashton

-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Thanks Kent.

The process you describe here seems to break down if the current owner is not the manufacturer.

18 minutes ago, Kent Ashton said:

Or do a Make/Model search for Model "Dragonfly" which will return 323 Dragonfly entries with Manufacturer names, see pic below.  If the "Manufacturer" in the 3rd colum is an individual [builder/owner] like Bailey Robert E do an individual Name Inquiry for his name (use the same name format).   That will return the N-number for that owner which you can search for all the info.  If the 2nd column has highlighted info like NORTH CAROLINA - 1, click on that and it will show you N-number info.  If the Manufacturer is a commercial name like AVRO none of this works.  Yeah, easy right  😞

Name search only returns current owners and N-numbers for me.

Model search only returns manufacturers with no other useful info.

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To 172 pilot:

Be VERY careful buying a canard.   Some are great, some not so great.

The Varieze MAY have a problem with the wing attachment.   Please ask some owners (I am NOT one of those).

The attachment may be (1) fine   (2) reparable but nobody TMK has published a repair method  (3) not reparable.

Kent sent you methods to find Varieze owners; FIND THEM.

I know a guy that retired and found that his Vartieze is type 3.

Bruce Hughes

 

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Posted (edited)
On 7/9/2020 at 11:50 AM, Kent Ashton said:

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I am amused to see the JHU Dragonfly show up. That one is headed to Titan! But they probably want to fly one on Earth for a bit.

Edited by Ron Springer

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28 minutes ago, Ron Springer said:

I am amused to see the JHU Dragonfly show up. That one is headed to Titan! But they probably want to fly one on Earth for a bit.

Interesting.  After one year on Titan and the condition inspection expires, will they ground it?  🙂


-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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