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I was rummaging through the Cozy archives and found this very interesting newsletter from 1995. Original was 1987. Read on, wow!...
The following three letters are concerning a lightning strike on a
Long-EZ flown by Dick Kreidel. We certainly thank Dick for taking the
time to write the account which Burt sent to Andy Plummer for his
comments. Mr. Plummer is one of this countries leading authorities on
lightning strikes and his letter is, also, reproduced here for all of us
to read and inwardly digest. Pay attention, guys, our EZs are not
indestructible, although many of us fly them as though they were.
"I deliberated for a long time whether to publish this account of poor
judgement and foolish mistakes. When I read it now, on the ground,
three months later, the faulty reasoning is easy to see. But I assure
you, that the decisions and events on May 23rd were made to the best of
my ability and skills. My hope is that someone will benefit from my
errors. It is a fine line between being around to tell a story and not
being around.
This account was originally sent to RAF for their comments. Burt passed
it on to Andy Plummer of Lightning Technologies who is reputed to be the
foremost lightning expert. Mr.Plummer's comments follows my tale......
I departed New Orleans Lakefront Airport IFR to El Paso at approximately
9:30 a.m. local on Sunday, May 23rd. I had received a thorough weather
briefing from Flight Service only 20 minutes earlier and they indicated
that westbound I shouldn't have much problems; rain showers and multiple
cloud layers with tops at 14,000' to 16,000' MSL with a thin cirrus
layer at 25,000'. Live Radar and FSS painted a line of thunderstorms
about 20 miles south but it probably wouldn't arrive at Lakefront for at
least an hour. I was cleared to 16,000' and had gone through multiple
layers of cloud and picked up some light clear ice after a climb through
12,000'. I requested from ATC to hold at 14,000' for a while since I
was between layers and the next ceiling didn't look as thin as
advertised. The OAT at 14,000' was +1 degree C. I flew through some
heavy rain and more ice accumulated on the plane, especially the canard,
elevators and vortilons. The wing did not appear to have much ice on it
and I could not see any on the winglets or the intersection between the
wing and winglets. Indicated airspeed at 2400 RPM was 122 KIAS. The
ice on the canard covered about 20-25 percent of the chord with some
"streamers" that went back to perhaps to 50 percent chord line. Ice
formed below the trailing edge of the elevator about 1/8" thick with a
uniform spanwise distribution. The ice on the canard was definitely
clear ice but what was below the trailing edge of the elevator looked
more like mixed or rime ice. The elevator position was about 5/16"-3/8"
T.E. down. The airplane was very controllable with good elevator
responsiveness. I could have easily climbed if I had wanted to so I was
not overly concerned.
ATC was giving me radar vectors to stay clear of any CB's but indicated
that contrary to my preflight weather briefing, the "weather west of New
Orleans is really wicked with the big boys having trouble going
through!" Center advised that the only way they felt would be O.K.
would be to deviate approximately 60 nm due North - obviously I followed
their recommendation. After a few minutes I was again in cloud and it
became increasingly difficult to hear radio transmissions - static was
all that came through the headset.
I started receiving small electrical shocks from the roll trim lever
through my jeans and shocks from the microphone to my lips. I became
aware of the transparent blue glow that was on the nose and canard. I
say blue but somehow it seemed blue with a pink tinge. The color was
similar to the bright blue from a gas welders flame. This halo was
about one chord width above the canard and seemed to "move" - it is very
difficult to describe in words. I was now getting shocked through the
speed brake handle and from the rudder pedals to my ankles (my feet were
in the relaxed position forward of the pedals). The B&D tachometer was
bouncing erratically from 500 RPM to full scale and both Nav CDI
displays were swinging from stop to stop. The electric engine
instruments were also useless - I didn't notice what the wet compass was
doing. Here I was: IFR conditions, icing, no communication or
navigation, thunderstorms and weird light. So far the ride was smooth
with no rain or hail in the cloud - the cloud was not a dark, heavy one.
The blue (pink) glow increased in intensity and its movement was more
rapid. I am not sure but I believe that the blue glow was now inside
the cockpit between my face and the instrument panel, but I could still
easily read the gages; it was right out of the Twilight Zone.
I saw a bright flash way ahead of me that seemed to go from left to
right that really lit up the cloud I was in; I assumed that it was cloud
to cloud lightning and that I was definitely in deep grease! The com
was still all static and calls to center were unanswered (or perhaps
unheard). I was so scared that I was sure that this would be the way it
would all end and Kay (my wife) would really be pissed! I smelled a
thick sweet odor, got one good shock from the microphone and then there
was a tremendous flash of light and an incredibly loud "crack" - I felt
it in my bones and chest as opposed to hearing it.
I had been looking out at the right wing trying to figure out why the
blue halo was not on the wings, only the canard, when the flash
occurred. I was temporarily blinded so I removed my hand from the stick
hoping I wouldn't enter a spiral dive. When I could see again (10-15
seconds), to my amazement 1) I was still alive and 2) the plane was
still level at 14,000' on my last assigned heading of 060 degrees. The
blue halo was gone and I heard a transmission on the com for a Delta
jet. I called center to see if my radio was blown and they immediately
answered my call! Apparently they had been trying to reach me to give
me a new vector and immediately turned me to 330 degrees. The airplane
was again between layers and the visibility was good, I could even see
patches below. Everything appeared to be working O.K. but the plane
still had a lot of ice on it and I didn't think I was in any mental
state to fly an approach. The airspeed now read less the 50 knots so I
knew that the pitot tube had iced over. The weather seemed to be
improving rapidly with a broken layer above and below with some
beautiful blue sky far in the distance. Since the plane would easily
climb with full power and the remaining aft stick I saw no reason to
descend and kill myself making a lousy IFR approach after all of this!
I then saw several dark patches on the wing and winglet leading edges
that upon later inspection were areas where only the glass skin
remained. In about 20 minutes all of the ice melted and the elevator
position returned to 1/16" T.E. up and the airspeed increased to 140
KIAS at the same power setting of 2400 RPM. The flight continued
normally in IFR and I landed at El Paso International four hours later.
So what is there to learn from this unwanted experience? Probably
several things. First, that the invincibility I felt in B888EZ
contributed to my cavalier attitude in flying in bad weather - this
certainly was not the "California IFR" that I was used to. After nearly
1100 hours of flying in a plastic cocoon, I had developed a false sense
of immortality - after all, the EZ had gotten me through some tough
situations before. Also, I learned to never, ever trust ATC and/or FSS
- the pilot must make his own decisions and evaluations on when to
commence or terminate a flight.
Another significant revelation is that although the Long-EZ is a great
plane and can leap tall buildings with a single bound, it is not suited
for hard IFR flights with embedded thunderstorms. I consider myself
extremely lucky to have survived this flight - my skill and judgment (or
more correctly - lack of both) hopefully will serve me better in the
future. Dick Kreidel"
**From CP44-3**
LIGHTNING TECHNOLOGIES, INC.,
10 Downing Parkway,
Pittsfield, Massachusetts 01201
(413)499-2135
22 July 1987
Subject: Long-EZ Lightning Strike
Reference: Your Letter of 3 June 1987, Same Subject, with
Dick Kriedel's Letter Attached
Burt Rutan
Scaled Composites, Inc.
Hangar 78,
Mojave Airport
Mojave, CA 93501
Dear Burt:
I have studied the interesting account of a lightning strike to
a Long-EZ by Pilot Dick Kreidel, accompanying your letter of 3 June, and
have the following comments:
1. After beginning the deviation North, the aircraft entered an
electrically charged region, as indicated by the static in the
communications system, "small electrical shocks" and "blue glow"
(corona) on aircraft extremities. The electric shocks were due to
electric field penetration of the non-conductive fiberglass airframe.
The erratic behavior of the instruments was also due to electric field
interaction with the interconnecting wiring. It is very likely the the
corona was indeed occurring inside the cockpit as Mr. Kreidel
suspected.
2. The synoptic weather conditions reported by the pilot are very
characteristic of those reported by other operators when lightning
strikes have occurred (~14,000 ft; icing, precipitation, within a cloud,
OAT +/- 5 degrees of freezing). Apparently the aircraft was near
embedded thunderstorm cells, though lightning strikes have been known to
originate in "layered" clouds as well as CB clouds.
3. The "flash of light" and "loud crack" indicate a lightning strike,
although evidently one of mild intensity as indicated by the
comparatively minor effects on the aircraft. At 14,000 ft. it is
likely that the aircraft encountered a branch of a flash, rather than
the main channel of a cloud-to-earth flash; as illustrated in the
following sketch. **SKETCH OMITTED**
4. The electric currents in a branch (of which there are a lot in a
typical flash structure) are usually much less than that in the main
channel. Even so, the flash and noise can be frightening if experienced
close at hand.
5. Apparently the lightning current entered one wing tip (take your
pick) and exited from the other, being conducted by internal metal
conductors between. The amount of damage to the fiberglass and foam
structures indicates a very mild strike - perhaps 5 kiloamperes or less
(Part 23 rules require an airframe to tolerate 200 kiloamperes).
Comments
1. Pilot Kreidel was lucky! A more severe strike may well have caused
major structural damage and lethal voltage difference among metal
objects in the cockpit (column, pedals, headphones, etc.) as well as
severe damage to internal electrical conductors such as control cables,
hinges, bearings, rods, electrical wiring, etc. These voltages and
currents can be far in excess of fatal levels. Electric fields and
lightning strikes themselves will directly penetrate unprotected
fiberglass structures, attracted by metal objects within - not matter
how small.
2. This is another example of the fact that ATC cannot be relied upon
to vector an aircraft safely around- and clear of - hazardous
thunderstorms. Controllers are not provided with sufficient (and
timely) information for this purpose. Even though avoiding areas of
heavy precipitation the aircraft ran into an electrically active region.
3. This incident is not a good example of what would occur to a Long-EZ
in a lightning strike. A "full threat" stroke would likely have ripped
a hole a foot in diameter through the composite and vaporized small
diameter control cables and interconnecting wiring. The accompanying
shock waves would have caused extensive internal damage, delamination,
etc. I doubt very much whether the aircraft or pilot could have
survived such a strike.
Recommendation
1. Continue to warn pilots of this class of aircraft to stay VFR and
avoid "weather" clouds, precipitation and icing within 5 degrees of the
freezing level should especially be avoided.
2. This Long-EZ should be thoroughly inspected to be sure that there
has not been damage to any internal metal parts. All internal parts
should be inspected. It is quite probable, for example, that this
strike burned some strands of control cables, electrical wires, etc.
Thank you for sharing this interesting account with me. Please
give me a call if you have any further questions.
Yours truly,
J.A. Plumer, President
Lightning Technologies, Inc.
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Anyone ever thought or tried to use some kind of nylon bushing or grommet sandwiched between two foam pieces or similar? This way it could move in between the foam plates with the off-center rotation of the tube.
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We could possibly use another cook pot and gas burner if Steve finds some chili.
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Great news Chris! A lot of us guys up here were thinking of you. Especially with all your bad luck on your Velo this probably would have been the last straw. Great to hear you're still in the game!
The closest we get to feeling your demise is only a taste of something similar for a very short period seems every year at OSH. Nothing more than a blown away tent or a flipped porta potti.
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I'm getting 25K rebuilt for a 360, 35K for a 540 rebuilt. But these can vary from place to place. I found them as low a 10K for a 360. I won't buy a new one.
You're speaking of the 360's correct? They're also very popular in Pitts, Eagles, and so on.These engines are in high demand by the RV guys so they are somewhat hard to come up with.
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Going for initial powerplant purchase cost they're really close in price and availability. I haven't looked too much in prop applications. I'm assuming they're the same? Is there a possible problem in over-spinning on the 540?
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There's lots of buzz lately about IO-540's pushing the back of Cozy's lately. We have Chris' sleek beast in the latest pages of SA and now Mark has posted Jannie Versfeld's presentation on the beautiful ZU-DAR o-540 Cozy MKIV. The cool sound that 540 makes is significantly more powerful sounding than the 360. Besides that, its faster than the 360 Cozy by about 20 knots.
Put side by side I'm torn between the 360 and 540. Unless I extended the passenger space it seems at this time the 360 with a CS prop is the ideal match for the Cozy. With fuel consumption a major issue these days it seems the 540 is at a disadvantage. But if you look at speed comparisons to GPH, there's a wide range of data.
I compared N540EZ to ZU-DAR and found a lot of similarities but the data was still unconclusive comparing TAS, IAS, altitude, etc.
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Chris, I saw some portable air conditioners at Home Depot. Not so much to cool things down in your hanger (which in TX is not half bad) but to relieve some of the humidity. You could even make a plastic tent around your work area like we do with hangers up North here in the winter.
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The design looks great from an esthetic stanpoint. But looks like a lot of extra hours for fit, finish, sealing, etc. How about making something like the sumps but longer? Say a quarter round tucked between the strake and fuse. Keeps the fuel closer to axis center, a bit lower CG, less vortex problems, fore/aft fuel shifting would be about the same. Most of all, easier to build. Just a suggestion.
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My plane building buddies bought MGS in bulk from Airheart in Dundas, ON, CA. Very near Toronto. They drove up through Windsor when the exchange was better. I see C.CA. is in Missisauga. You might want to try Airheart. They only sell MGS and it'll be pretty reasonable for you if you order in 5 gal. cans. It's a father daughter business and they're very helpful.
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If the weather gets nasty and your tent gets a leak Steve P., Monique, and I have a room shared (separate beds you pervs) if you don't mind floor space. Just ask.
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To each their own I guess. I like some demo and hands-on stuff. Was kind of entertaining but I had no feeling of being rude if my mind drifted off to dream land (A.D.D) and went to look at planes while someone was going on about washers. Albeit a good safety tip. I like the choices there. No schedules as it should be. I go there to get away from schedules. Bleckkk! What I DON'T like is vendors pushing their way in for our attention trying to sell bungie cords and flashlights. Keep that crap at OSH or find a flea market somewhere in Louisville!
Although.....a carnival vendor would be nice. I'm partial to elephant ears.
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Ahhh.. the ass-ender. Hardly his inspiration. Probably more the Wright Brothers his inspiration.
Check this out too: http://www.canardzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=619&highlight=ascender
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Jon, you need to convince fliers that you're actually going to "build" your Cozy before getting ride time.
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It's happened to 3 airports here so far and one more is questionable. The housing downturn saved it for now. Removing long family run old airports for subdivisions of oversized houses and golf courses I can't afford is bitter to swallow. Sorry about off-topic.This was so they could close the current Blair Airport because they wanted to expand the golf course (and the noise was interfering with their putting.)
Besides, what's the neighbors going to say when you lift off in your Moeller and it tears the sod off their front yard? We (as humans) have problems with gear up landings. What's going to happen when people forget to extend their wings at takeoff. Or worse, retract them before they wipe out some cars in the FBO parking lot?
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I'll trade some hot dogs or a coffee can of cash for a ride.
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Hans, looks like you have plans #745 for the Cozy MKIV. You'll find in the chapter where the spar is made and installed there's a bit of alignment to do. What some have done(like me) is build the wings before the spar. Then when it comes to aligning the spar to the wings and fuse, you can attach the wings first to the spar. I did this and only require one .070" shim between one bushing on the spar to wing attach bolts.
There is a small space between the strake end and the wing root so the leading edge of the wing will flex a little in flight without touching the strake. Some guys make this gap very small so it looks like they're attached. Believe me, the wings are solid strong attached to the spar.
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Okay, looks like I'm going for sure. Dust asked me to deliver the hot dogs. No problem. I'll stuff them in the trunk, map pouches, glove box, seat back pouches. I'll be there Friday.
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Oh c'mon Chrissi! You will be making more than one won't you? How about making a wood pattern on your lathe then make one with CF and your lowvac?I'll call it 10 1/8" for now. Since the area at the back of the cowling has been proven to be high pressure we would like to fair the cowling into the spinner the best we can.
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Chrissie, aren't you sleeping in your van down by the river? Big Steve, don't go defiantly, go happy. Sorry Mike is stuck in China and I'm pondering still whether to go due to gas prices. I have a room this year so I won't need to wake you at 3:00AM for a hammer.
Last year we got volunteers at the last minute and all turned out great. The tent is available every year now and they'll set it up for us. To do it again we need volunteers for:
A pot to boil brats
Pop/water/beer
coolers with ice
paper plates/cups
buns
condements
anything else someone wants to bring
I can still get the brats in my little car if nobody volunteers. Big Steve brought potato salad he found nearby. We had lots of pop and beer but Remi Ku kept us hydrated with lots of water on ice. Nathan had great chili for 3 years but he's given up the build and not coming. Somebody made some great cookies and a fine young man brought a propane burner and a big pot. Wish I could remember everyone's name - sorry. Just some great people pulled it all together. Dust says he still has the money and would gladly reimburse any volunteers this year. He's not coming this year due to his wife being very ill.
My absolute favorite thing was that coffee on Sunday morning. It would be great if someone could bring a big coffee pot or two. Even if we don't get hot dogs.
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Joe,
I haven't heard of anyone painting them but its your choice. The Alodine is a good material etch and corrosion inhibitor by itself. My opinion is that if you paint them you can't inspect the for corrosion or (God forbid) stress cracks. They'll be fine as-is.
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Drew, great video! You seem very comfortable in front of the camera. I hear a bit of Aussie accent I didn't hear before.
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What? We have instructions? I thought this was a free speaking site as long as there's no attacks. I heard no attacks but only constructive criticism. Bellville Hell.... I can't get up!I was just reprimanded off list for not following instructions... no really?
Sorry for the off-topic. We just have too much fun here! Thanks for the post Marc.
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Anyone read Al Wick's blog on rotaries? After all I've read about the advantage on non-piston engines, this makes me think twice. He puts a pretty decent argument about putting on a Subaru. I guess I never thought that a zillion other engine problems can make one do an emergency landing besides losing a piston. Might be a good alternative if you're going auto and need the space.
At any rate, for those who don't know, the people of Japan get taxed heavily for owning cars over 3 years old. You can get an excellent price on a good low time Jap motor. I picked up a Honda engine with 10K miles on it warranted for 90 days for 300 bucks. Delivered shrink wrapped from a place called American Auto Exchange (ironic). There's probably a lot more middle men out there to look up.
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Anyone got another good website with photos?