Brad L. Starkey Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Saw a canard yesterday and wondered if anybody could make a guess as to what it might have been. It was up pretty high but here's what I saw. Basically, it resembled a Starship in looks and size. (you don't suppose I got really lucky do you :D ) It was a white, twenty or so passenger, twin engine pusher, canard aircraft. Sounded like a turboprop to me. It had propellers anyway. So anyway, what's up there like that these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 It was probably a Piaggio Avanti. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad L. Starkey Posted January 4, 2007 Author Share Posted January 4, 2007 Yup, that was it alright. For a second I thought it was a Starship. Then I saw the rudder was wrong. Oh well... Still, it was almost like seeing one. They must be quite a sight. Someday maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I've seen an Avanti on two different occassions and each was as exciting as seeing a canard aircraft. It's a pretty looking plane that I wouldn't mind owning. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satch Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 There's an Avanti that flies in and out of APF (Naples, FL) pretty regularly. I happen to live under approach / departure corridor for one of the runways ... there's no doubt when he's coming or going ... a sound like no other! Pretty pretty plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rviglierchio Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Not sure how to attach photos so here's a try of the Piaggio at Oshkosh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad L. Starkey Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Pretty pretty plane. Yeah. A pretty, pretty plane. I could even see the different colored tips in the blur of the props. Just like in the pics. Way cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I was working in my home office this weekend when I heard the most unusual airplane sound flying over head. I scanned the skies out the window for what it could be, then, blazing straight over my house was a Piaggio Avanti. I followed it out to the distance when I finally exhaled. Always a treat! Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpellicciotti Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I love the Avanti too. Great looking and performing airplane. Here's a couple of videos for your enjoyment: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYNi8bNrNVc http://tinyurl.com/2tczh2 The second video of an Italian Air Force P180 flying a demo at an airshow. Quote Rick Pellicciotti Belle Aire Aviation, Inc. http://www.belleaireaviation.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad L. Starkey Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 ...the most unusual airplane sound flying over head. That's exactly why I looked up too. An unusual sounding airplane. It's the turboprops I guess. I heard it but it was an odd quiet... Too quiet so I looked up and Wow!!! Doesn't seem to quite describe it though. How about, Really Wow!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity dreamer Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hay everyone. If anyone dont know I work at the FBO in Fort Smith Arkansas. I have to disagreee on the looks of the piaggio. I personaly think they are ugly deformed aircraft. One that you need almost a AMP rating to add a quart of oil, (seriusly there is so much involved we only let the mechanics do it. I really wish the Starships would go back into production, When they where flying We had one based with us for a couple years. I pulled it out and fueled it just about everyday. I helped the pilot do the nasty,( the nasty is cleaning all the soot off the carbon fiber blades) I once even got to fly in it. That was a real treat. Ther is still one for sure possibly two starships still flying. It still comes into fort smith now and again. Keep your eyes to the sky and if you ever get to see a starship up close you will change your apinion on the piaggio. sorry for my bad spelling Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP Tomes Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I was within touching distance of this beautiful airplane. This is my father (hat with many pins and camera around his neck) talking to the owner/pilot about the Collins Pro Line avionics he helped build (he was a test equipment manager at Collins before he retired). It's heartbreaking to think of the fate of the rest of the fleet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Evansic Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Don't hold your breath on the Starship coming back. The stories I heard about the unfortunate end of that plane (from un-named sources at Scaled) indicate that the plane was killed with malice and prejudice by one or more people who gained power within Raytheon/Beech at the time. The destruction of the prototype happened on the ramp right in front of Scaled's main building. It was destroyed by two monkeys that were hired by Raytheon to do the job. -- Len Quote -- Len Evansic, Cozy Mk. IV Plans #1283 Do you need a Flightline Chair, or other embroidered aviation accessory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad L. Starkey Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 if you ever get to see a starship up close you will change your apinion on the piaggio. Lynn Of this I have no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Keep your eyes to the sky and if you ever get to see a starship up close you will change your apinion on the piaggio. Of this I have no doubt.Sorry guys, but I've seen a Starship up close and still remain impressed and fascinated by the Piaggio's design. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad L. Starkey Posted February 15, 2007 Author Share Posted February 15, 2007 Sorry guys, but I've seen a Starship up close and still remain impressed and fascinated by the Piaggio's design. Trouble Maker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Ha! Maybe my point is that I like the Piaggio well enough that I'd "take it"! I'd also be interested in its handling qualities -- if they were a hybrid of a traditional AND canard design, that wouldn't be a bad thing for some people. Somebody... go design, build, test, and sell plans for a Piaggio-like homebuilt! Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashdog Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Already working on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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