How to register Long EZ

[britguy59]

I reserved an N-number, now how do I determine how to find or get a serial number, registartion number et al. Its not complete yet, so do I have to wait for the FAA to certify it as experimental? How about the radio licence? Thanks to all that might help, may be finished in a few more months. I chose 227CF, the military guys will understand.

 

Oh yes, and how do I know what plan number I have, can't seem to find a number on the plans and Rutan guys don't answer emails...

[Eccentric]

I reserved an N-number, now how do I determine how to find or get a serial number, registartion number et al. Its not complete yet, so do I have to wait for the FAA to certify it as experimental? How about the radio licence? Thanks to all that might help, may be finished in a few more months. I chose 227CF, the military guys will understand.

 

Oh yes, and how do I know what plan number I have, can't seem to find a number on the plans and Rutan guys don't answer emails...

You don't need a plans number. As builder, you can assign any serial number you want.

[Waiter]

The FAA puts out several Advisory Circulars (ACs) that describes the entire process, Your local EAA chapter should also have all this information.

 

Here are a couple that you should download and print. Goto the FAAs web site www.faa.gov and search for these documents. They describe the entire process:

 

AC 20-27 - Certification and Operation of Amateur Built Aircraft

 

AC 21-12 - Application for US Airworthiness Certificate (8030-6)

 

AC 90-89 - Amateur Built Aircraft & Ultralight Flight Testing Handbook.

 

These are all very good books and are filled with information and examples. The FAA did a good job puting these together.

 

Serial Number - Most people use their Plans Serial number, but as Eccentric says, you can use any number you want.

 

When you fill out your request for Airworthiness Certificate, there will be a block there asking for you Serial Number.

 

Radio Station License - NO longer required (in the USA). Radio Operators License ALSO no longer required (Ah, the good old days, I still have mine, Class 2 FCC License)

 

Plans Number - The second or third page (License agreement) in the booklet had the Serial Number hand written on it. It had two copies, Rutan would sign both copies, you would sign both copies, then mail one of the copies back to Rutan.

 

Waiter

[britguy59]

As I bought (as many do) a partially built plane, I never got the contract page that Rutan and the owner sign. Perhaps it exists out there, but I guess I'll just have to come up with an appropriate one.

[Chairboy]

It's not needed for registering your plane, if you get it, it's for your own records, not for the FAA.

[Al Lypchuk]

Have been denied registration of my Long Eze in Canada for the reason that I have progressed too far for a spar inspection. My options now are limited as I would have to tear it apart. Have decided to sell and am exploring the idea of offerring it in US if the rules do not prohibit this. From some of the messages I have read this looks like a real possibility. Aircraft is from 80 to 90 percent finished, have all parts including engine 0235 and all instruments. If anyone can help me, please reply, thank you

 

Al Lypchuk

[Jon Matcho]

First, I don't know Canadian regulations. I thought they were similar to USA, but apparently not.

 

Can you not get away with taking the wings and engine off?

 

You can sell as-is in the USA, but you'll take a hit because it's "80 to 90%" complete. I would be worth a fair amount more if it were airworthy.

 

Good luck!

[Waiter]

I'll bet this is the only country in the world (USA) that doesn't require pre-close inspections.

 

The FAA depends on EAA tech advisors to perform these inspections. Although not required, they are highly favorable.

 

Waiter

[Spodman]

I'll bet this is the only country in the world (USA) that doesn't require pre-close inspections.

Well, one of two anyhow. And we based our rules on yours.

Have been denied registration of my Long Eze in Canada for the reason that I have progressed too far for a spar inspection.

Could you make a new set of wings? Or maybe peel the skin off yours for the inspection. Would be better than starting a new project.

 

Can you truck it to the US and register it using US rules? Then either transfer to Canuck rego or keep an N number. One of our local millionaires (bless 'em) has been flying a tarted up PA31 for years with an N number on it.

[Al Lypchuk]

Thanks to all who replied to request. It seems that my best option is to offer the Long Ez for sale in the USA, expect I will to that in the near future. Thanks again, Al Lypchuk:)

[Waiter]

Al;

 

Very sorry to hear this. Have you explored all other options, i.e. the use of photos in the inspection?

 

WARNING TO ALL BUILDERS -

 

Although "Pre-Close" inspections are no longer required in the United States, They are most likely required in other countries. Check with your local agency.

 

If your a builder in the United States, its a very good idea to have an EAA Technical Counselor perform inspections during various stages of construction. Although not mandatory, pre-close inspections may be required by your insurance carrier.

 

Waiter