noodles Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 Check out the Williams site. IN approximately two years they will be offering there new 80 lbs/700lb thrust engine. This is the one that NASA helped them with. They say that if it's manufactured in large quantitites it would be comparable in price to a new lycoming. In addition to all that it has a favorable rate of burn. I don't know exactly what that means. I know Eclipse was going to use but Williams meet the expectations. Quote Cozy IV project. Redheaded Stepchild of The Canard Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slade Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 >IN approximately two years they will be offering .... If I had a nickel for every time I'd heard that I could afford an EFIS. >favorable rate of burn. I don't know exactly what that means. It probably means that they've got the cost of the $100 hamburger down to about $650, and the endurance up to a couple of hours so long as you cruise above 20k ft and dedicate the back seat to jet fuel. I think you need to increase cruise speed by a hugh factor to take advantage of the turbine - Who's going to test a 400mph Cozy? I do hope the turbine eventually becomes affordable and practical for homebuilts, but ..... On the other hand, I hear on the grapevine that an unnamed cozy flyer is installing one as we speak. Quote I can be reached on the "other" forum http://canardaviationforum.dmt.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleturtle Posted January 5, 2003 Share Posted January 5, 2003 He's not un-named... Its Greg at Blue Mountain. I went to see his Cozy III and he's in the process of taking out his Rotary and installing a Turbine. He says he'll use the back seat for extra fuel space. His rotary appeared to be a very nice installation so I can't help wondering if the Turbine idea is a little over the top. He plans to have it finished by March so maybe it will be at Sun'N'Fun. Quote This ain't rocket surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macleodm3 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Did you offer to buy his rotary while you were there? Quote Andrew Anunson I work underground and I play in the sky... no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeC Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Williams jet? 700lbs thrust. 700x4. hmmm...(silently gazes up at the stars and thinks of the x-prize). Interesting indeed. JakeC Quote www.homebuiltairplanes.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekisbey Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Three words come to mind. Blind Goose Deflector. Quote Evan Kisbey Cozy Mk IV plans # 1114 "There may not be any stupid questions, but I've seen LOTS of curious idiots..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleturtle Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 ... and BRS! Quote This ain't rocket surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Schubert Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 According to Sport Aviation, Ellipse has cancelled their contract with Williams due to a lack of thrust and other technical issues. Those "technical issues" will get you every time. On the bright side, now that there is no longer an exclusive contract, you guys can probably line up with your checkbooks. Quote "We choose to do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noodles Posted January 14, 2003 Author Share Posted January 14, 2003 Hate to say this, but I finally got a response from someone at Williams International about their little Turbofan. The fact that they arent doing so well with the Eclipse people probably had a bit to do with that though. My request was for some technical info on the EJ22 fan that they were working on, this is the reply I got: >Dear Mr. Jaeger, > >I'm sorry but we do not sell engines for non-FAA certified products. >(You can thank the trial lawyers). > >I suggest you find military surplus engines for that use. > >Regards, >RS So all of you that were hoping to see a turbofan in the experimental market (where it should be... imho), you'll have to keep your pants on for the mean time. -Ian Quote Cozy IV project. Redheaded Stepchild of The Canard Community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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