Chicago Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Well, I bought new Shin tires and tubes and figured out how to remove the old tires from my Varieze but for the life of me I can't break the bead of the tire when deflated. What is everyone doing to separate the tire from the rims. I really don't want to spend over $100.00 for a bead breaker from ACS and someone mentioned jumping on them but the 11.4-5 tires are kinda small for my feet to break the bead. My feet slip off the tires. Should I just go to a local gas station or tire shop and have them break the bead in their machine? I was hoping to do this with out spending a ton of money on tire replacement. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketdrew Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 For the last six years I've used a mini tire changer from Harbor Freight. harborfreight.com Mini Tire Changer ITEM 34552-6VGA $39.99 Mike VariEze N840EZ 500hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Did you remove the three bolts that hold the rim halves together? Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 Did you remove the three bolts that hold the rim halves together? Yes, I deflated the tube by removing the valve stem and then removed the bolts. I went and got the mini tire changer from HF and it worked like a charm . I sent the wife to go get some baby powder since tire talc doesn't smell as nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 I sent the wife to go get some baby powder since tire talc doesn't smell as nice.Ha, ha, haaaaaa ...... I'll have to remember that one. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share Posted May 23, 2009 I was about ready to put my tires together and then noticed the 11 X 4.00 X 5, 4 ply tires are only rated for max 46 psig and the label on the tires say transmaster and not Shin like my old tires. The ACS label on the tires say their shin but that's not what the tires are actually stamped with though. My old shin tires say max 96 Psig. Anyone know if these are replacement tires and is 46 psig is good for the Varieze or did ACS send me the wrong tires? Maybe I should have ordered the lamb tires from ACS instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Erickson Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I was about ready to put my tires together and then noticed the 11 X 4.00 X 5, 4 ply tires are only rated for max 46 psig and the label on the tires say transmaster and not Shin like my old tires. The ACS label on the tires say their shin but that's not what the tires are actually stamped with though. My old shin tires say max 96 Psig. Anyone know if these are replacement tires and is 46 psig is good for the Varieze or did ACS send me the wrong tires? Maybe I should have ordered the lamb tires from ACS instead?those are not the right tire you need the tires that were made by Lamb now are made by Cheng Shin when you order you want whats called Lamb in the ACS catalog, they come in 6 or 8 ply rated and are for 96 psi. I was at ACS yesterday and they had a full shelf of them. Quote Evolultion Eze RG -a two place side by side-200 Knots on 200 HP. A&P / pilot for over 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted May 24, 2009 Author Share Posted May 24, 2009 Perfect. Hopefully ACS will take the old tires back and trade them in for the right ones. This is what I get for picking the cheap ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I'm sure some will tell me they have been using baby poweder for 10,000 years and have had no problem but most baby powder has oil in it and is not good for the tires and tubes. Better to use tire talc. Terry A&P A.I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Erickson Posted May 24, 2009 Share Posted May 24, 2009 I'm sure some will tell me they have been using baby poweder for 10,000 years and have had no problem but most baby powder has oil in it and is not good for the tires and tubes. Better to use tire talc. Terry A&P A.I. thats right, I still have the same container of baby powder that I have used for the last 35 years and it was used by my father for at least 20 years before me. Quote Evolultion Eze RG -a two place side by side-200 Knots on 200 HP. A&P / pilot for over 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Like I said some have used baby powder for a long time with no problems. Informed choices are always better than uninformed ones. Maybe they didn't put oil in baby powder 55 yrs ago:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 What does the oil actually do? Does it degrade the rubber over time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Erickson Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Like I said some have used baby powder for a long time with no problems. Informed choices are always better than uninformed ones. Maybe they didn't put oil in baby powder 55 yrs ago:)no they probably did not , in fact many types of baby powder made before the '60 used chrysolite asbestos, bad stuff, but the one I have is made of talc. have you ever seen anyone use baby powder and have a problem? the tubes used in the lamb tires are the natural rubber type not the new synthetic type use on certified aircraft. baby powder does contain fragrance oil in a very small quantity. you will get more oil off your hands while working on the tires then the amount in baby powder. I have never heard of a problem do to baby powder. we do know that the tires hold pressure better if filled with nitrogen instead of air. Quote Evolultion Eze RG -a two place side by side-200 Knots on 200 HP. A&P / pilot for over 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Can anyone recommend the proper way to remove the bearings from the wheel to repack them? I am not sure if they just pop out or if I have to remove some parts first with a tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Erickson Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Can anyone recommend the proper way to remove the bearings from the wheel to repack them? I am not sure if they just pop out or if I have to remove some parts first with a tool?they should just come out, remove the felt dust seal and lift out the inner race with the rollers and cage. the wheel bearing should be reinstalled so there is a slight preload on the bearing. tighten the bearing hand tight and then with a wrench, tighten to align with the next cotter pin hole. Quote Evolultion Eze RG -a two place side by side-200 Knots on 200 HP. A&P / pilot for over 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 they should just come out, remove the felt dust seal and lift out the inner race with the rollers and cage. the wheel bearing should be reinstalled so there is a slight preload on the bearing. tighten the bearing hand tight and then with a wrench, tighten to align with the next cotter pin hole. Thanks for the procedure. I noticed there was a retaining ring holding the bearing assembly together and I had to use a screw drive to pop the ring out by the small tab first before everything else was able to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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