HatSwitch

Jeff, the nose of that Long in the picture looks familiar, does it have a big 32 painted on the fuse sides fwd of the strakes by any chance?

Hat

This guy is a true gem in our industry and some of you are going to alienate a tremendous resource.

STOP IT!

Yeah, What he said...

I put in an order with RST right in the face of this thread and it will get here when it gets here. Besides, as smokin-fast as our "Girrls" ship their great products , I'll have plenty to do while I wait, patiently.

Hat

Forget all that.

Break out your Open-EZ templates, or better*, an original set of Long-EZ templates; refer to page A5, which as you know shows the details of the gear brackets and surrounding fuselage structure. Assuming your fus is, or will be, built to plans, craft your gear attach brackets to fit/match you’re A5 drawings. Couple of important things to check here before you break out the hacksaw and files:

1. On the Open-EZ templates, at least for the purposes of this thread, forget about using the added “scale dimensions” along the bottom and side of the page to check for scale accuracy, rather, CHECK THE SCALE ACCUARCY OF TEMPLATE PAGE A5 BY CHECKING THE MEASUREMANTS BETWEEN THE F.S. AND W.L. NUMBERS, AND CHECKING THE MEASUREMANTS OF THE OTHER COMPONET POSITION DEMNSIONS INDICATED. On my printed Open-Ez templates, the plan W.L. and F.S. and EVERY OTHER dimension checked “DEAD-NUTS, PERFECT, RIGHT-ON-THE-MONEY, doesn’t get any better than that!” While the so-called added scale dimensions are off by ¼” and 1/8” respectively. This means if your templates are to scale, you can lay your 2x2 extrusion in place on the page and its width will be EXACTLY as drawn. Mine did.

2. Figure out where your AN6-80A holes will be drilled on the brackets (remember their centers are 0.4” higher than plans per the CPs )

3. Use the “full scale"drawings in chapter 9 as “shape” guide lines only, with the 0.4” move in the AN6-80A hole placement and the material equidistance called for around the holes, the finished bracket won’t look exactly like the chapter 9 drawing anyway. You can use the A5 template to figure the original W.L height of your AN6-80A bolt. The top or your upper longeron is W.L. 23. Again remember, the CP’s call for those AN6 holes to move up 0.4”. Confirm this finished elevation using W.L. 23. as a bench march. And remember, don’t run your 15 ply bid pads up any higher than W.L. 12.35 (look for that little note on A5) If you fabricate and install your brackets per plan and CP, the W.L.12.35 caution is a non-issue for the brackets, but still applies to the 15-ply bid pads at the aft or larger bracket though.

Hope this helps

Hat

* Note for Jon: "Better", only because the user didn’t have to drive to Kinko’s and put out 40 bucks to print them out.

make sure there the recent drawings current to 2006 if you can

and make sure all the pages are present especially the spar layup and construction ones as you will more than certainly want those

Colin, Thanks for the tips. TMann said there were 99 pages: I'll count 4 sets of 20 and a 19. Not sure if these are current thru 2006, but I'm sure they will prove more than sufficient for my purposes.

Hat

. . .

You start with a good female mold. After waxing it or otherwise treating it so that the epoxy will not stick, you spray the mold with epoxy primer. When the primer is dryish to the touch, you lay your glass on it and squeegee and squeegee and squeegee the epoxy into the weave (s). When all is saturated, you take, I believe it is called, . . . "

A SMOKE BREAK

". . . Of course the quality of the mold will determine the quality of the part.

Like a good cheese, it depends on the mold:p"

For the guys,

this could also be interpreted as solid Standard Operating Procedures

on Valentines Day!

Hat

(Flower Shop on Speed Dial)

. . .

It's hard to part with that much green but it's a great value.

I paid more and do not regret it a bit.

Thanks TMann, that's what I was thinking too, the impulse to tear my pocket open and whip out my wallet was strong when he told me he was considering a sale but resisted till I could run it by you guys first. I'll snatch them up tomorrow night.

Hat

I ran into a someone with Berkut plans, just the drawings, expressed a willingness to part with them for $5-600: fair, good deal, dirt cheap, what a rip! Run! ??

Anyone have a current opinion?

Hey, did you guys see Remi's new avatar? Looks great!

Correction: Any ref to 0.04" mentioned above should read 0.4" (4/10ths). But you guys are ready knew that! Sorry for the typos.

Hat

Ref: Long-EZ plans change #45 CP27. http://www.cozybuilders.org/ref_info/Canard_Pusher/LongEZ_Plans_ChangesUpdate.htm

Ahh, don't be sad, be happy I'm sure you're in very good company with this one: From what I could gleam from the pictures posted on your blog: First, I think the work looks good, really good; Second, I think both the 15-ply pads and the bracket are relatively EZ to fix at this stage (cut-sand-go out for lunch). While you are in the midst of that little task, all you have to do to make yourself feel better, is think about having to do the same thing, only after the spar is floxxed in!

A few more things come to mind here: IF your aft MLG brackets are fabricated to size per-plans, and the attach bolt hole locations are drilled per-plans, but, the AN6-80As were drilled at the PC call out of "up 0.04" as called for in CP??, and assemblies currently check to be installed up past W.L. 12.35, that could mean: The brackets are installed higher on the fus than plan spec'd, which means the lower attach bolts punch through the lower longeron doubler High and have less spruce-meat over them; the AN6-80A's are currently higher on the fus than they should be, which could mean (if all else to follow is built per plan) your ramp-AOA will end up higher, and your prop-arch will swing closer to the ground.

This is what I'd consider doing in lieu of ripping it all out and starting over: - If the AN6-80A ARE currently at the W.L. level they should be considering the PC 0.04" change to the plan, and the lower bolts ARE drilled through High on the lower longeron. Carefully channel out the 15-ply bid pad under the bracket enough to allow the engine mount extrusion placement (WL 12.35 or lower) leaving the top of bracket unaltered (except as needed to allow extrusion bolts) to overhang the extrusion. Maybe also consider flox-packing the overhangs after the extrusions are installed. As far as the lower bracket attach bolts: If they are drilled "up" from longeron center and are lean of spruce, (cause of structural concern?) channel out the eurethane equal to the size of an additional spruce incert to work as a new doubler (trippler?) flox it it in, use gravity and leverage as your clamp.

- If the AN6-80As ARENOT currently at the W.L. they should be considering the PC 0.04" change to plan: All of the above; consult our structural and or experienced builder/fliers gurus, make adjustments and any buildups needed when you fab to install your main gear bow.

In any case, don't let this stall your progress, press on, consider dealing with it when you have lag time. Just as long as its before the spar install. Hope this helps. Keep up the good work.

Hat

Martin, check the W.L. height of your 15-ply bid pads and the top of your aft main gear attach brackets, if either or both are above WL 12.35, you may have a moment coming when you try to install the engine mount extrusions. If you’re using the Open-EZ templates, check A5, just aft of the aft-MGA bracket (near the top), there is a small penciled-in CP note addressing this. If you need to make any adjustments, pre-spar installation is the time to do it.

Hat

COOL!

. . . just when I am not looking there is a flurry of activity and a big pile of work done. . . .

...Chrissi

I'm standing by my predictions! ". . ." Go Go Drew!

Hat

Drew,

I always find it amuzing when people start nit-picking anbout 10 minutes here and 30 there. What is the funniest part is that they usually have a project that has seen as much attention as they have spent being critical of the 'worker bees' !

 

The project killer isn't mods, template routing, vacuum bagging (and on and on.) The project killer is avoidance. A day goes by ....... then it's a week ........ then a month.

 

You're working on your project (more than others) so press on and enjoy!

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Yeah!

What Tmann said!

Press-on Drew, any time spent defending being good at being productive, is time wasted, time that could better be spent slinging goo and kicking glass.

Looking forward to your next installment.

Hat

Ahhhh, with all of the above taken into consideration and noted (point for point), I’ll still say: Nice job, Drew! VERY NICE JOB!

Everyone has their own way of doing whatever it is “they” do. Based on content and my own perceived subtext in your video, my best estimate is your Cosy will roll-out looking more like it was born of a precision factory, not like one that came out of a blender between margarita batches. I also predict: For project hours actually worked (not necessarily elapsed calendar days start to finish), and in spite of the attention to detail, you will probably end up with a record short time build. Call it a hunch. Keep up the good work and keep doing the Drew Show Videos. Ya Nevva know, you may just bump one of those silly a** reality shows right out of a cable slot and help ignite a new firestorm of interest in Canards.

Well Done!

Hat

. . . My guess is that by the time you do that, and pay for all that, you're not that far off from what I'm asking. But, that's MY opinion!

If you catch Matt (over at TERF) in a good mood, you can do "ALL THAT" for under 2 bills. But that's just my opinion*!

Banking right - heading for the refrigerator...

* This opinion based on personal experience, your opinion may be based on something else.

Build Your Bird
True to the Core



EXTREME PRECISION CNC HOTWIRE CUTTING

Usually the last words you hear before a guy unbuilds his kit is:

"Hey guys, watch this"

 

CHrissi

Yeah! Followed by the sound of a chairsaw firing up!

I have a feeling Tony's new bird is going to turn out much better than if the original builder had done a fine job from the outset and nothing needed to be fixed. He probably would have kept it and Tony would still be looking. I think at some point down the road all the crappy prelim work that was done will prove to be a silver lining in the bigger picture. I'd cut the poor guy some slack from here and focus more on what's right about all the work its going to take to get this beast up and boring holes. This is an exciting project to watch, I'm looking forward to seeing it completed. Need to back read this thread now, if it hasn't been brought up already, what's the disposition of Tony's original Long-EZ going to be?

Good morning everyone!

Hat

I have the TERF CD . . . Now for the problem.....

There is no "problem".

Cosygirrrl hidden Rudder Horns: $30 each plus shipping.

You won't do better than this at any price.

Buy the parts, build the chapter, . . . next.

http://www.cozygirrrl.com/aircraftparts.htm Follow this link, you will find what you need near the bottom of the page directly above the engine mounts. Hope this helps

For your Open-EZ project bulkheads, did anyone else use a lay-up inspector at post cure? I did, and trust me, you don't want to piss this guy off!

Hat

I'm going to the aircraft spruce open house in Atlanta Saturday May 19th 2007 and plan to place my order for the first several chapters of material.

Okay Ken,

Got an update to this drama? It's been 3 months since your last I'm gunna, lets have it!

Hey Tom,

More Pics - More Pics!

With that request out of the way, curious what the initial design and layout details of your 6-point harness are?

Hat

Nice work, real nice work, but I like this one better, for minus 2 reasons. . .

http://www.usm-c.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/canard.jpg

Great job on all of them! The detail and craftsmanship - awsome!

I'm going to include a link to your catalogue page on my builder site once I get back to that. http://www.hats-ez.com

Again nice stuff

Was that F-4 a D series?

Just wanted to shout out to anyone in the Southern Illinois area.

Welcome to our little piece of the rock, oops - no, I mean figerglass

Illinios! You will soon find out you are in real good company out there.

Again, WelCome!

Hat

Excellent job on the foam cores!

Good value excellent quality.

Thank you for cutting them before you left.

Here's a great example of ingenuity filling a niche.

My wife and I thank you for your family's sacrifice

Fly safe and tailwinds home!

John,

You probably don’t know how close you came to losing those cores to me. The truck was gassed-up Sunday night and ready to deploy complete with an alternate driver. Was just waiting for the call. Still, I’m very happy that things worked out for you. Keep us posted here under this thread how everything checks-out with the cores and how you think your build process was improved based on their use. I’m not quite ready for the wings yet, but I will be long before Steve returns. You’re a lucky guy my friend, now go out and buy a lotto ticket!

Hat