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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1123649222464062/

2001 Velocity XL-RG5 for sale

140 hours on IO-540 with 300HP

200kts at 13.8gph I am an IA and own North Texas Aeronautics and this plane has been gone through multiple times to insure the airworthiness, integrity and safety. I am very detailed oriented when it came to every nut and bolt on this plane even though I wish I could say I built it, I did not. If you lookup N8575B you can see how much I’ve been flying this plane. Every time I’ve changed the oil, the spark plugs have come out to get cleaned and inspected and also all cylinders borescoped and compression checked. All cylinders are between 78-80. Check for yourself. All avionic data basses are up to date and have about 9 months left on their subscriptions. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with this plane at all. We are selling unfortunately to better our new maint shop that fully opened its doors this year. You can see this plane on YouTube, airplanes and Airplanes and Coffee and everywhere in between. This is a magnet for anything and everything. Annual/Conditional inspection is due in January and will make sure the new owner has a fresh annual. Inflatable door seals Heated front and rear seats Satellite music and weather with full autopilot. Oxygen just filled and tested at 13,500ft Both 91.411/91.413 have been completed

$350k

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@Marc Zeitlin I'm guessing you know a few things about this one?
 

O320 LONG-EZ, GARMIN AUTOPILOT • $44,000 • OR BEST OFFER! • 1992 Long-EZ, actively flying. Catto 3-blade prop with O-320 160hp engine, 1270 SMOH, 1070 TTAF. One mag, one Electroair EI. Last CI, Burnside Aerospace, 5/2024. Updated avionics, Garmin 2-axis autopilot, GMC507, G5, GTR200B, Stratus ADS-B in and out. New Tosten grip. Full rear seat controls. Full length rudders, hidden bellcranks. Removable panel aft of canard for easy access to avionics. New USB and 12v outlets. Heated seats. New tires and tubes, wheel bearing fresh grease. A nice flying airplane, selling to focus on my project Aerocanard. Wheel pant kit and completed baggage pods included. • Contact Lance Kidder , Owner - located Reno, NV 89711 United States Telephone: ---------- • Posted November 4, 2024

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2 hours ago, zolotiyeruki said:


@Marc Zeitlin I'm guessing you know a few things about this one?

Yup. Been working on it for a number of years and have flown it a few hours.

1 hour ago, Midengineracer said:

If Marc has good things to say about it, I'd imagine this should sell quick. 

As with all planes (mine, and OSH award winners included), there are pros and cons.

Mr. Kidder can supply the last CIs checklist and residual list as a preliminary indication of what's good and what's squawking, as a prelude to any Pre-Buy examination a prospective buyer should perform.

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COZY CLASSIC III • $40,000 • NOW AVAILABLE • 1997 Cozy Classic III, TTAF is 181 hrs. since build. Engine is a Lycoming IO-360 180 HP with 201 hrs. Prop is a 3-bladed catto prop. Aircraft has one electronic ignition and one magneto. It does have ADS-B installed. Also has fuel gauge on the panel for both tanks. Trickle charger to keep battery charged and has new battery installed along with two new brake master cylinders. Contact number is 573 551 7732, ask for Bill. • Contact Bill Boyd - BALLISTIC AIRCRAFT , Owner - located Kennett, MO 63857 United States Telephone: ---------- • Posted November 6, 2024 

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No price, or indeed any info on the engine...

2001 LONG EZE • AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE • Long EZ for sale located in Huntsville,TX • Contact Justin West , Owner - located Brownsville, TX 78521 United States Telephone: ---------- • Posted November 10, 2024 

A photo of the panel:

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This looks like an absolute STEAL:

LONG EZ FOR SALE • $17,500 • FOR SALE • Long EZ Lycoming O-235 with zero hours. This finely crafted example of what a Long EZ should be was built right up to flight testing before the builder passed away. It's been inspected by a respected Canard Guru, and a list of items that need repair are in this ad. Engine has been crated for EZ transport. N28EZ is ready to go from project to airplane. It's currently hangared in Sanford, Maine, KSFM. Buyer responsible for transporting once sale is complete. • Contact Christopher Becerra , Friend of Owner

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On 11/7/2024 at 11:17 AM, zolotiyeruki said:

COZY CLASSIC III • $40,000 • NOW AVAILABLE • 1997 Cozy Classic III, TTAF is 181 hrs. since build. Engine is a Lycoming IO-360 180 HP with 201 hrs. Prop is a 3-bladed catto prop. Aircraft has one electronic ignition and one magneto. It does have ADS-B installed. Also has fuel gauge on the panel for both tanks. Trickle charger to keep battery charged and has new battery installed along with two new brake master cylinders. Contact number is 573 551 7732, ask for Bill. • Contact Bill Boyd - BALLISTIC AIRCRAFT , Owner - located Kennett, MO 63857 United States Telephone: ---------- • Posted November 6, 2024 

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Besides the older avionics and the pretty simplistic finishing on this one, what are the downsides someone sees with this plane.  I am looking at possibly getting a Cozy (IV) preferably, or a long-ez, but would like a little better avionics and two axis AP vs single roll axis AP.  Would be solo most of the time or with one other person or rare occasion, so ability to have a little bit of baggage space would be nice.  

Kev

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5 hours ago, Kev in MO said:

...what are the downsides someone sees with this plane...

It is impossible to evaluate a plane from a sales listing, no matter what the text says and what the pictures show. One can see if it's a total piece of crap, or if it might be worth a trip for a Pre-Buy, _IF_ one gets the logbooks and AROW docs, as well as a zillion pics of the exterior, interior and engine compartment, as well as a list of all the known squawks.

Since the plane has only 181 hours on it in 27 years, and the engine only 200 hours (presumably in about the same timeframe), you can pretty much guarantee that there will be corrosion in the engine (and possibly on other metal bits of the plane, but that's easy to see). That's not necessarily a deal breaker - just means it should be taken into account for pricing.

The panel is archaic and would almost certainly need numerous upgrades, if not a full replacement.

But only a competent Pre-Buy examination would tell for sure. There's no indication of the last time it flew, how much it flew in the last year, or whether it has a current CI.

Are the "downsides" any worse than most older E-AB aircraft for sale? Not really. An upside is you might get a really good deal on a flyaway plane. But there's only one way to know... And I'd want to REALLY find out why it never flies...

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Not an expert by any means but have been shopping for planes for a few years and bought two. I learned (on this forum) that a Cozy 3 is basically a Long EZ and at $40K that's all the money for this class of plane. Also learned you and your passenger need to be short and skinny and travel very light.

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They're not called Cozy for nothing!
But that is the reason for the MkIV - bigger. And many builders, myself included, add even more to the fuselage.

Aerocanard (modified) SN:ACPB-0226 (Chapter 8)

Canardspeed.com (my build log and more; usually lags behind actual progress)
Flight simulator (X-plane) flight model master: X-Aerodynamics

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19 hours ago, Marc Zeitlin said:

It is impossible to evaluate a plane from a sales listing, no matter what the text says and what the pictures show. One can see if it's a total piece of crap, or if it might be worth a trip for a Pre-Buy, _IF_ one gets the logbooks and AROW docs, as well as a zillion pics of the exterior, interior and engine compartment, as well as a list of all the known squawks.

Since the plane has only 181 hours on it in 27 years, and the engine only 200 hours (presumably in about the same timeframe), you can pretty much guarantee that there will be corrosion in the engine (and possibly on other metal bits of the plane, but that's easy to see). That's not necessarily a deal breaker - just means it should be taken into account for pricing.

The panel is archaic and would almost certainly need numerous upgrades, if not a full replacement.

But only a competent Pre-Buy examination would tell for sure. There's no indication of the last time it flew, how much it flew in the last year, or whether it has a current CI.

Are the "downsides" any worse than most older E-AB aircraft for sale? Not really. An upside is you might get a really good deal on a flyaway plane. But there's only one way to know... And I'd want to REALLY find out why it never flies...

How would one go about finding someone "trustworthy" to do pre-buy inspection on a Cozy or Long-EZ?  Everything you said above is spot on, so many unknowns for sure, of course, I know you have a ton of experience here, which I value (I have lurked a long time).  Plus this plane doesn't have cabin heat, which I know can be installed based off video I saw on Scott's Carnard Blvd youtube channel, but not sure why someone would not do that  during initial bulid, unless they lived in the tropics maybe.  This owner said weight of plane was like 990 pounds (which is believable) but sad the gross weight was 1800 pounds.  Is that realistic?  

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6 hours ago, Kev in MO said:

How would one go about finding someone "trustworthy" to do pre-buy inspection on a Cozy or Long-EZ?

Word of mouth. I do them, but I no longer travel to do so - if you want me to do one, you bring the plane to Tehachapi, CA. I can recommend a few folks around the country, and I can de-recommend a few more. If you can't find someone who is highly recommended, you get a COZY/canard builder who's got a high quality airplane and ask them to take a look for you. That's more of a crapshoot, but it's a crapload better than nothing.

6 hours ago, Kev in MO said:

This owner said weight of plane was like 990 pounds (which is believable) but sad the gross weight was 1800 pounds.  Is that realistic?

Is it realistic that that's what the owner SAYS the MGW of the aircraft is? Sure. Anyone can set the MGW of an E-AB aircraft to any number they please, as long as they test to it either in the Phase I period or in a 14 CFR Part 91.319(a) compliance test period after entering Phase II, and after a Major Change (which an increase in MGW most certainly is).

If your question is whether a COZY III can safely FLY at 1800 lb., the answer is "it depends". The Long-EZ, at 1325 lb. MGW, is a 5G airplane. If you derate it to Normal Category 3.8G levels, that makes it a 1,743 lb. MGW aircraft. Now, the COZY III is claimed to be a 3.8G aircraft at the POH MGW of 1500 lb. - I'd have to review the spar cap layups for each (LE and COZY III) to determine if that's Nat just derating things or if there's some other difference. If you take the 1500/3.8 numbers as structurally real, then raising the MGW to 1800 lb. decreases the G loading maximum to about 3.2.

This is all a LOT of handwaving, since it's not exactly accurate for the canard/wing spars, and it's not accurate at all for the landing gear loading, which is the weak point in any MGW increase of these planes.

With an O-360 engine, the performance at 1800 lb. will be completely acceptable - COZY MKIVs with O-320's have an MGW of 2050 lb. by the POH, so it can only be better than that.

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I like this Marc guy. He helped me a lot with a Cozy 3 I was looking at (and did not buy for the same reason discussed ... MGW is limited by the landing gear). Besides he went to my Alma Mater

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AIRPLANE FOR SALE-LONG-EZ • $40,000 • AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE • Owner, Builder 0-320 160HP 1,020.00 Hrs. 3 Blade prop. Electric nose lift. Electronic Ing. On top plugs. Auto Pilot. Hanger based. Lancaster, PA • Contact Kerry Fritz , Owner - located Lancaster, PA 17601-3020 United States •  Posted November 26, 2024

 

PRICE REDUCED ON 1986 LONG-EZ • $49,000 • AVAILABLE • Price reduced for immediate sale, lost medical. O-320, 800 hrs STOH, 2400TT. Has been a strong, reliable flyer for many years. MGL panel, Lightspeed + mag, Skybeacon, pods, nice interior, exterior 3-4/10 • Contact John Thomas , Owner - located Elbert, CO 80106 United States Telephone: ---------- • Posted November 27, 2024

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2025 LONGEZ NEARLY COMPLETED. • $28,000 • BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL • New Long EZ $28,000 Nearly completed, purchase this plane for less than the cost of materials and be 20 years ahead of starting from scratch. Never flown or been registered. motor not included. Motor-bracket is mounted and ready for either 360/ 320. Silver bullet propeller included, Plane powers up, all wiring completed w/ battery installed, Complete Instruments. Downdraft Cowling. Plane is beautifully built and professionally painted has extended nose with electric nose gear and wheel pants. Ready for your inspection, located at IZA and can be delivered for additional cost. • Contact Rico Yabs , Owner - located Santa Barbara, CA 93105 United States Telephone: ---------- • Posted November 29, 2024

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