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On 3/12/2022 at 5:23 PM, Sevo said:

What are others thoughts on this project? Is it a sound buy? 

    It _was_ an ordinary EZ at one time so could probably be put back to that.   It appears to be configured with a taller and longer turtleback maybe to house test equipment so the turtleback/canopy and back seat might need rebuilding.    Pretty easy to do on a composite airplane.   It’s going to need refinishing, rewiring, avionics, engine, cowl work,  prop.   You just hope the wings, canard, strakes are in good condition and just need a little TLC.   There is probably 300-400 hours of work to be done there.     I don’t see any show-stoppers but I’d want to see more a lot more pics before I’d travel from Kansas.  🙂

-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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1 hour ago, Kent Ashton said:

There is probably 300-400 hours of work to be done there....

Extremely optimistic. With no engine, no panel, no electrical system, basically, it's just an airframe. And with the need for refinishing, at least on a large part of it, I'd say closer to 800 - 1200 hours before it flies again. WAY less than building from scratch, certainly, but boy is that nose ugly. You've got 200 hours in just the electrical system/IP, plus another 60 - 80 hours in just the baffling on the engine, not to mention all the other engine installation time. Now, double that for a first time builder that doesn't know what they're doing yet...

And to beat a dead horse, I wouldn't go near it, for $5K or $0K, without a qualified Pre-Buy examination.

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Yeah, post your pics here.  I can edit them out after a while.  The aircraft is still known in the FAA Registry (pic) so you should be able to get the AWC reissued when it is all finished after a fairly cursory inspection by the FAA or a DAR.   The bigger problem could be that that the current owner is shown as Electronic  Warfare Associates.  In order to get title you have to show a legal chain of title from EWA.

As Marc said, it could be lots of hours but way less work than building from scratch so that's a plus.  It could seem intimidating for a first-time builder but my first-time-builder friend repaired the nose and canard he ripped off his Cozy.  If you don't like the nose, just saw it off and build a new one.

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Just looking at the new Vans Lycoming engine pricelist (pic).  Wow--and these are sold at a discount to Vans builders, I believe.  They can be had a lot cheaper from the rebuilders but I wonder if the price of avgas and engines will bring out a good water-cooled auto-based engine.  This is getting ridiculous.

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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On 3/14/2022 at 8:28 AM, Kent Ashton said:

Yeah, post your pics here.  I can edit them out after a while.  The aircraft is still known in the FAA Registry (pic) so you should be able to get the AWC reissued when it is all finished after a fairly cursory inspection by the FAA or a DAR.   The bigger problem could be that that the current owner is shown as Electronic  Warfare Associates.  In order to get title you have to show a legal chain of title from EWA.

As Marc said, it could be lots of hours but way less work than building from scratch so that's a plus.  It could seem intimidating for a first-time builder but my first-time-builder friend repaired the nose and canard he ripped off his Cozy.  If you don't like the nose, just saw it off and build a new one.

Assuming the previous work was done well, how feasable is it for a first-time builder to pick up and finish a project plane?  I've heard that building the fuselage is a good first step, because you learn how to glass nice, easy, flat things (bulkheads, seat backs) before you progress to the more advanced, critical stuff like the center section spar, wings, canard, etc.  Saving 1000 hours of construction time sounds appealing, but if that lack of practice results in poor quality on the wings, it seems counterproductive.  Or is the process forgiving enough that, assuming you've done the practice layups and studied the plans thoroughly and pay attention, it won't be a big deal?

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3 minutes ago, zolotiyeruki said:

if that lack of practice results in poor quality on the wings, it seems counterproductive.  Or is the process forgiving enough that, assuming you've done the practice layups and studied the plans thoroughly and pay attention, it won't be a big deal?

The EZ/Cozy plans are pretty good and after a bit of study to figure out where the last builder left-off, you should have no problem.  I break a paragraph into subparts with pencil marks and insure I didn't skip any task or sentence in a paragraph.  I imagine you will have to get used to how much micro to use, how much to squeegee a layup, how fast or slow you need to complete the wetout and what a good layup looks like but it doesn't take long to figure that out.  The Education chapter covers that. My first layups were over-squeegeed and I could see that by looking at the layup with a strong magnifier--I could see strands of glass that looked like little bridges with epoxy underneath.  A good layup should have epoxy between the strands but not pooling on the surface.  (I did not toss those parts  🙂  ).   Yeah, it would build confidence to do an initial layup with an experienced builder but it's not absolutely required.

-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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On 3/14/2022 at 3:22 PM, Kent Ashton said:

Seen today.  Not FREE--I don't know why his top line says that.  Asking around $10K

 

Now also listed on Barnstormers:

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LONG-EZ PROJECT • $10,000 • FOR SALE • Long-Ez Project- long nose, large rudders , GU canard, actuator installed for gear, have actuator for speed brake but not installed. Todd canopy still in wraps. No motor mount, no engine, no propeller. Mostly the only glass to be done is what is seen missing. Will come with more than enough foam and fabric to finish with real blueprints And yes it will fit U-haul. (If you take off rear gear) Comes with a set of official plans asking around 10k obo. located in Cle Elum, Wa • Contact Benjamin Watson , Owner - located South Cle Elum, WA United States Telephone: 5096564849 • Posted March 15, 2022 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images
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Hello all,

I appreciate the information posted here before, and I used it to diligence an airplane in Ogden, UT.  I ultimately passed on this particular airplane, but I thought it might help someone else who is in the market for a Long EZ.  The classified listing is linked below, and I have added some photos from my visit and from the hangar mate of the owner.  Cal, the owner, suffered some medical issues, and the airplane has been grounded for ~16 yrs.  Thanks to all those who posted before me, and I hope this is helpful to someone else.

Cheers,
Tony

https://classifieds.ksl.com/listing/67154591

 

 

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LONG EZ • $40,000 • FOR SALE • 1984, 1477 SMOH O235l2c, 3 blade adj prop, GTR 200B, G5, GTX 327, Aera 660, GDL39, ADSB in/out • Contact Aaron Pirani , Owner - located Jacksonville, FL United States Telephone: 9014972426 • Posted March 18, 2022

Today's Barnstormers,  no pics.  N95CW    This one was listed back in Jan 22nd for $42K and updated here  https://www.canardzone.com/forums/topic/21972-sales-ive-seen/?do=findComment&comment=81532    Pic in that comment.  Was parked on the ramp in a coastal environment and doesn't seem to be flying much (the hours haven't changed).

 

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Seen today.  No pics.  This chap posted a Long-ez for sale back in November.  A good deal, I'd opine, even without plans.

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COZY MK-IV PROJECT • $1,500 • CLEANING OUT THE HANGAR • Great start on a Cozy IV! Tub complete on gear with tires and brakes. Very nice build. No plans. • Contact Stephen Glover , Owner - located Mission Viejo, CA United States Telephone: 714-293-9787 • Posted March 19, 2022

 

-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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An unusual bird...

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2015 VELOCITY VTWIN • $350,000 • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • 2015 Velocity V-Twin. TTAF 200 hrs, 2 - Superior IO-360 180 hp engines - 200 SNEW, New 3 Blade MT Prop 200 hrs SNEW. Built in Sebastian FL under Velocity Builder Assist Program, GRT Avionics HXr EFIS, GRT Avionics Mini-AP, GRT Engine Information System (EIS), Avidyne IFD540 IFR GPS, COM and NAV, PS-PMA5000EX Intercom, Espar Heater, Click Koyo PLC system. Airplane located at: KHNZ.SEE ADDITIONAL PICTURES • Contact Don White , Broker - located Merritt Island, FL United States Telephone: 321-266-7410 • Posted March 17, 2022 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images
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Barnstormers today.  Decent price with the overhauled O-320 and prop.  Avionics due for an update but not necessarily required.  A few more pics in the ad.  There is an outfit in Texas that repairs those Terra radios but it's somewhat expensive--not that they need repair.

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LONG-EZ N64MC • $49,000 • FOR SALE BY PROUD OWNER • + Total time 1750 hrs. Empty weight 1088 pounds + Engine O-320, + Top overhaul by Ly-Con, 110 hours ago New cylinder assemblies, port flowed, new valves + Electronic Ignition: + Catto Propeller 3-blade + Autopilot: Trio Pro-pilot + Terra comm, nav & transponder; recent IRAN, latest digital displays + ADS-B In and Out + Cabin heater; Electric nose gear; Vortex generators(Jim Price design) + Currently flyable, Hangared: O32, Reedley, California (near Fresno) + Leave voicemail message • Contact Bruce Mcelhoe , Owner - located Reedley, CA United States Telephone: 559-859-6311 • 559-638-3746 • Posted March 25, 2022

 

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Today.  No pics.  Could be an expired registration   https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N81465

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LONG EZE • $40,000 • ACCEPTING OFFERS • Looking to Sell LongEZE located in a hangar in Compton/Woodley Airport. Please let me know if you're interested in checking out the plane. Kept in great condition out of the elements. • Contact Jeff Baione , Owner - located Rancho Palos Verdes, CA United States Telephone: 9177674587 • Posted March 29, 2022

And this Defiant seen on FB.  Sounds like a great buy compared to a Velocity twin--or any twin for that matter.   Low time engines and modern avionics--that's maybe $65K right there.  Wait!  The floor paint is a little scuffed.  Reject!    🙂  https://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N431RA

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-Kent
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2014 VELOCITY XL-5 N7779X • $229,000 • FOR SALE • Reg: N7779X, SN: 3RX126, TTAF: 300, Engine SNEW: 300, based in San Diego, Air Conditioning, Low TT, Cowl Flaps, Flow Straighteners, Factory New Engine When Built. Kept Hangered, Well Maintained With a Roomy Cabin & Mood Lighting. Contact: Stephanie Geisler, Cell Call/Text: 772-773-7214 , Office:772-563-0774 • Contact Ian Wolfenden - PLANEMARKETING , Broker - located Vero Beach, FL United States Telephone: 772-559-5557 • 772-563-0774 • Fax: 772-563-4922 • Posted March 28, 2022 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images
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And one without photos:

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1992 VELOCITY 173 • $20,000 • ACCEPTING OFFERS • 1992 Velocity 173 retractable project available-located In Illinois- • Contact Jeffrey Odum , - located Simi Valley, CA United States Telephone: 3235390737 • Posted March 27, 2022

A Q200 listed without pictures:

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Q200 • $29,500 • FLY RIGHT NOW • • QUICKIE Q200 • BACK ON THE MARKET • Quickie Q200, N131PS; beautiful; Jabiru Gen 3; 6-cyl 120HP, low time; 20 gal. capacity. Airframe 870 accident-free hours; recent annual update. VFR day, basic panel; Kit No. 2520, built June 1997. Flown-delivered to KLMO; from AZ to CO 12/2021; hangared. Hull insurance refused because I'm 92. Reluctantly must sell. Pics and data on request. Price this month $29,500., increases $500./month.Please use text or email. • Contact Terrence O'Neill , Owner - located Niwot, CO United States • • Contact Terrence O'Neill , Owner - located Niwot, CO United States Telephone: 6187999293 • Posted March 25, 2022

 

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Barnstormers:  This E-racer project listed more than two years ago at $15K, reduced today

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E-RACER PROJECT • $7,800 • PROJECT FOR SALE • E-Racer project for sale. Canard complete, wings need winglets attached (included. I have most of the RG gear pieces as well. Fuselage has bulkheads installed and nose gear. Spar had not been drilled for wings or installed. Factory strakes and cowlings included. Lots here. no engine Text if interested. • Contact Martin Skiby , Owner - located Bakersfield, CA United States Telephone: 661-340-0575 • 661-393-5418 • Posted April 3, 2022

Old ad  https://www.canardzone.com/forums/topic/21972-sales-ive-seen/?do=findComment&comment=64922

 

-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Inflation hits home!   This Long-ez relisted at $1K higher price.   https://www.canardzone.com/forums/topic/21972-sales-ive-seen/?do=findComment&comment=82280   Pics at his website

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215HP LONG EZ • $53,500 • FOR SALE AGAIN • Unique 185kt Long EZ without wheel pants. (New carbon wheel pants are included but not installed). Fantastic performing 379 Titan Lycoming only 130hrs since new. Electric Nose gear, electric speed brake, Garmin G5, MGL V6 com, Vega EMS RDAC, Airfrow fuel injection, dual Lightspeed ignition, Ecco ADSB out. Built originally in 1988 only 1050 hours tt. Aircraft located in KSPZ Santa Rosa CA for a few weeks then back to Spokane KDEW Spokane WA.VISIT MY WEBSITE • Contact Kevin Eldredge , Owner - located Deer Park, WA United States Telephone: 509-890-5371 • Posted April 5, 2022

and this one  (pics 1,2)  N1LZ

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LONGEZ • $36,000 • MOTIVATED SELLER • 1991 LongEZ 860 TTA, 0235 1653 TTE, 3 separate GPS systems, Garmin 496, GRT Sport EFIS+ Engine Inf Sys. with battery backup. GRT is PFD+mov map with engines all in one. Echo UAT ADSB in/out waas to 6’ good with ForeFlight ect. King 96A com,King 76A Txp, Trio AP, electric nose lift. VG’s front canard. All electronic, no vacuum system. Flys great I plan 142 tas at 6 gph, Medical issue forces sale. Needs current conditional. Located KFWS Spinks/Ft Worth • Contact Michel Kaiser , Owner - located Fort Worth, TX United States Telephone: 623-925-2233 • Posted April 4, 2022

 

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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