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DRAGONFLY MK2 • $4,500 • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • Dragonfly fuselage, wings & canard. Factory engine cowling. Mark 2. Landing gear, wheel pants, hydraulic brakes, templates, original plans, EAA inspection about a year ago! • Contact Jim Gogniat , Owner - located Decatur, TX United States Telephone: 940-443-0227 • Posted August 14, 2021 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images
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What you see here. Been stored in the rafters of a barn in northern Iowa. Disk brake-wheel hubs, rudder pedal assembly, cowling. Many metal parts are tarnished. I can only find one of the landing gear, I'll keep looking for the other. I started the project 30 years ago in Chino, CA and then wound up spending most of my career overseas, so there it sat. There was some tiny damage to the verticle stabilizer and the top of the rudder during transport, easy enough to fix with a little cloth and epoxy.
This is IMO the most under-appreciated homebuilt out there. I agree on how cool Long-EZE's etc are, but I like sitting side by side, being able to use a wider variety of engines, having some real baggage space, and wanted a more docile, economical plane that performs well on a variety of strips.
The project is about three hours south of Minneapolis, but I can move it to the Cities.
 
$2,500  · Minneapolis, MN
Dragonfly project
 
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Just got off the phone with Michael Collier. His 1999 Velocity RG listed for $65k on Barnstormers sold last weekend. Was hoping to get a look and maybe make an offer.

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LONG EZE • $29,000 • ESTATE SALE • 95% complete airframe, wiring, new 0290 Lycoming rebuilt engine installed, new propeller (Ivoprop), instruments, Call with questions. • Contact Barbara Morgan , Owner - located Visalia, CA United States Telephone: 559-280-6934 • Posted August 17, 2021 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images
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VELOCITY FG DMO62 SHARP! • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • Factory built 200hp 170kts, 430hrs, EFIS, ADSB, Fly Now, 105k PHOTOS HERE youtu.be/MmxFEd5o9uA • Contact Chance Durham , - located Missouri City, TX United States Telephone: 7076314243 • Posted August 19, 2021 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad

 

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Very reasonable price, I'd say.  Looks well cared-for.  More pics in the Barnstormers ad

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1984 VARIEZE PROJECT • $12,000 • FOR SALE • 1984 Varieze project 124.6 hours TTAF. Continental O-200. KT-78 Transponder. King KY196 Comm. Tinted canopy.T-30 Flight Data Systems Tach. Skytech light weight starter. Aircraft was flying a few years ago. No ADSB. Disassembled for transportation. • Contact Clint Martin , - located Escondido, CA United States Telephone: 5305213855 • Posted August 21, 2021

 

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Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Wow.  Has some old controls (trim), and appears to be missing the nose gear, but that is tempting for that price.  If I didn't already have the VariEze, Long-Ez, and Cozy...😀

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The rare Defiant today.  No pics of the panel  😞   I am ambivalent about them.  If you were going to cross the oceans, the extra engine would be nice but given the hassles of flying an Experimental in other countries' airspace.  Maybe a certified twin would be better.  Anyway

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RUTAN DEFIANT • $95,000 • FOR SALE BY BUILDER • 2006 Rutan Defiant. 185 TTAF. Fwd O-360 156 SMOH. Aft O-360 910 TTSN. 160 kts /16 gph. Winglet rudders, nose gear doors. ADSB out compliant. Hangared in Fayetteville Arkansas (KFYV). email for detailed specs and photos. • Contact Charles Caldwell , Owner - located Fayetteville, AR United States Telephone: 4792831519 • Posted August 22, 2021

 

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Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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On 8/22/2021 at 8:48 AM, Kent Ashton said:

Very reasonable price, I'd say.  Looks well cared-for.  More pics in the Barnstormers ad

 

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Looks like I've bought this project .  I will be transporting it on a 16 ft car trailer to Utah in a few weeks .  Any advice on how to transport it would be welcome .  Sounds like the "only thing wrong " is the  nose wheel is completely  taken apart and need to install a castering nose wheel which I presume comes with it . 

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4 hours ago, Ratdog said:

Looks like I've bought this project .  I will be transporting it on a 16 ft car trailer to Utah in a few weeks .  Any advice on how to transport it would be welcome .  Sounds like the "only thing wrong " is the  nose wheel is completely  taken apart and need to install a castering nose wheel which I presume comes with it . 

Actually, the first thing wrong that stood out to me when I was asked about the plane by prospective buyers is the 789 lb. empty weight (per the dataplate - heaviest VE I've ever seen), which makes this a single seat aircraft for a light pilot with full fuel. Plus the corrosion on the wing attach fittings; the minimal time on the engine over the years and the ancient panel. I've already warned two people away from this plane, but I hope it works out for you. This is why I recommend Pre-Buy examinations... Just because something is cheap doesn't mean it's a good deal.

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Thanks marc .  If i decide to bail out of this deal the worst i lose is a 300$ deposit.  I need to know what you know about the corrosion . I dont see it in the photos on barnstormers of the wing roots but i dont really know what im looking for .    

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The two previous replies from Marc and Michael should have helped kill that deal.   I am sorry you will lose the $300.  The problem with the corrosion possibly could be repaired if you are an expert builder but you seem to be a beginner.  I have an overweight Longeze that is slow.   I suggest you listen to those two and start searching for a good project.   Marc has a list of Cozy planes that were for sale.  Good Longezes appear for sale from time to time.   I wish I had a Cozy 3 instead of the Longeze.

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17 minutes ago, A Bruce Hughes said:

I suggest you listen to those two and start searching for a good project.  

Yup, the first canard I owned was a Cozy III.  I had retired from the A.F. and seen the EZs and Cozys at Oshkosh but I didn't know much about them except that I liked the idea.  Went down to Mississippi, took a ride with the owner builder of a Cozy III.  He was pretty honest so I bought the airplane.  I had fun with it but the paint (auto enamel) started flaking off after a year or so.  The old GU canard scared me once taking off on a very humid day with a pax so I rebuilt it with a Roncz.  The avionics were very simple and did not permit IMC flying unless you are comfortable with needle-ball-airspeed (but it had LORAN!).  The wiring was rather primitive with lots of PVC wire used.  The engine was a high timer.  The starter and alternator were heavy old Lycoming units.  Finally, the C-III was really not the best airplane for a fairly heavy pilot and pax.

So it was quite a learning experience.  Probably an experienced canard owner could have pointed out this stuff and saved me a lot of work (and money).


-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Saw this SQ2000 for sale being refurbed by a well-known person.  Not gonna post the ad because IMO these sort of projects and the SQ2000 should be avoided.  Nevertheless, it's pretty interesting to see what the original builder had in mind: a sort of ERacer hybrid.  I imagine he is glad he got his hand out of the jar.*

*Little kid crying: "I don't want the prize, I just want to get my hand out of the jar."    🙂

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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LONG EZ PROJECT--MUST GO ASAP! • $6,500 • FOR SALE • Sale fell through. 95% done-90% to go. MUST GO! Text for pics and info. Long nose, cro-mo rollover • Contact Marl Halbrook , Owner - located Albany, GA United States Telephone: 229-869-8853 • Posted August 24, 2021 • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad

This one slipped by me earlier:

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2015 VELOCITY TXLRG • $268,500 • FOR SALE BY BUILDER • 2015 Velocity TXLRG “Velociraptor” Best Composite Aircraft Sun N Fun, 2019. TTAF 694 hrs, 310 HP Continental TSIO 550C “twin tubo”, 694 hrs SMOH by Western Skyways, MT 4 Blade Prop 694 hrs SNEW. Built in Sebastian FL under Velocity Builder Assist Program, Velocipator sports a fully integrated suite of Garmin Avionics to include G3X Dual Screen Displays with GAP 305 coupled autopilot, GTN 650 (WAAS) and G5 PFD Backup. In addition to a PS Engineering BT8000 Audio Panel, are an L3 Stormscope, Micron Z SSB HF radio, and AH700 Landing Gear Controller. Airplane located at: KTKI.SEE 100+ PICTURES HERE • Contact Don White , Broker - located Merritt Island, FL United States Telephone: 321-266-7410 • Posted August 20, 2021 • Display Specs Page • Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser • Recommend This Ad to a Friend • Email Advertiser • Save to Watchlist • Report This Ad • View Larger Images
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I came across this video about replacing Varieze wing attach fittings.    He calls it an EZ and it appears to be an unfinished (unskinned) piece of wing but it will give you an idea of what would be involved.  Not really sure it is practical to do it with four fittings on a real Varieze. 

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-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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14 hours ago, Kent Ashton said:

I came across this video about replacing Varieze wing attach fittings.    He calls it an EZ and it appears to be an unfinished (unskinned) piece of wing but it will give you an idea of what would be involved.  Not really sure it is practical to do it with four fittings on a real Varieze. 

 

 if you buy an uncompleted Varieze and you still have good access to these plates is there a recommended fix is to make them more durable ?  is it just corrosion or is the design a little flawed . 

It sounds like a pretty dicey procedure with a lot of potential dead ends.  

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Here's a Rutan discussion of the problem.   I don't think they ever developed an easy way to repair them and it is hard to detect but I'm not a Varieze guy.   http://v2.ez.org/corrosion.htm


-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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3 hours ago, Ratdog said:

 if you buy an uncompleted Varieze and you still have good access to these plates is there a recommended fix is to make them more durable ?  is it just corrosion or is the design a little flawed . 

It sounds like a pretty dicey procedure with a lot of potential dead ends.  

The only "fix" for a wing attach fitting corrosion issue is to completely disassemble and remove the metal parts, ensure that the composite spar is sound and wasn't damaged in the process of the original metal fitting installation, and then fabricate new fittings, protect them with alodining and appropriate coatings and then re-install everything with wet hardware. If you don't know what ALL of that means and how to do it, you're not in any position to do the work.

As I've stated numerous times before, I believe that it all could be done in about 40 - 80 hours of work, assuming that the underlying composite spar is in good shape.

As you surmise, there are many things that could bite you - the composite spar could be damaged, you might damage something in the removal of the corroded metal, or you might have trouble getting all the re-fabricated pieces to align and fit together correctly upon re-assembly. Paying someone $4k - $8k to do this work, with no guarantee of success, seems like a risky path to me.

VE's change hands fairly regularly, and they don't fall out of the sky regularly, but there HAVE been at least 4 known instances, in around 2K Variezes, of corroded wing attach fittings. Who knows how many are corroded and haven't been discovered? Nobody. I most certainly would never buy one that had any visible corrosion anywhere on the wing attach fittings.

See the picture below for a corroded fitting example - the visible portion, near the hand, is fairly decent looking - you wouldn't necessarily expect that the non-visible portion has severe interlaminar corrosion that has removed over 1/3 of the thickness of the material and damaged the rest.

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Rutan Long EZ Project w/ engine - $14,999 (Aurora)

Call or text Kevin 303-941-9525. Serious inquiries only.

https://denver.craigslist.org/avo/d/aurora-rutan-long-ez-project-engine/7372039203.html#

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65-70% complete Long EZ project. See pics for details. 2 sets of original plans. Lots of extra to include altimeter, engine gages, etc. Engine 1954 Lycoming. See pic.

https://denver.craigslist.org/avo/d/aurora-rutan-long-ez-project-engine/7372039203.html

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11 hours ago, velopilot said:

Serious inquiries only.

"Serious only"?  I always find that off-putting.  Who can be serious about a picture of a 1954 O-290 engine logbook--a core engine at this point--, round-dial panel and conical engine mount.  Let's get serious!  🙂  Ought to say "All offers seriously considered"

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Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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Yeah, I talked to a guy that was selling a longez and he said he had bunch that had no idea what they were looking at - and landed up chewing up the guys time...    I would suggest to put "educated interest only"  (like someone who has actually read some of this site and knows what they might be getting into.   Sellers complain that (like this listing is 14,000) - that they go "will you take $2,000? (and they have not even asked any questions or came out to look at it!)).  And, at least he has the log for the engine 😉  

 

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How does a longeze preform with a 0290 particularly at high altitude 6000ft airports and 90 + temps . 

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