Jon Matcho Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The Quickie Q2 is a side-by-side canard-type aircraft. Major differences from the other Rutan EZs are: Tractor (vs. pusher) propeller The Quickie canard provides the majority of the lift The nose gear does not retract in the tri-gear configuration A tail-dragger configuration is also an option VariEze-like performance I came upon an opportunity to acquire an unstarted Q2 kit that I could not resist. I will explain my plans for all of this (my Cozy, the Tri-Q, and this Q2 kit) in the near future as I'm still working through some of it. Until then, here's a picture of me "flying" the Q2. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bailey Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Why cool Jon, I can't wait to see your build progress and when you get to your first actual in the pattern flight 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted October 15, 2014 Author Share Posted October 15, 2014 On 10/15/2014 at 10:09 AM, James Bailey said: Why cool Jon, I assume you meant "way", but at first I saw that as "Why Jon, why?" Thanks, I aim to have my other plane flying next year. More to come... Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVI Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 What? Test flight with no parachute? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bailey Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yep..typo...should have been way cool Looks like it was a factory new package,..what a find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 Yes, it does look like a factory crate, but credit goes to the seller on this deal. He and I were able to come to an arrangement that he would bead-blast all the metal parts, make a crate, and drop off at a freight company for delivery. After weeks of back and forth with emails and pictures, I have a like-new kit (in New Jersey) without ever having gone to where it was (Texas). Attached is a pic showing how you can turn rather old metal into beautiful like-new metal parts. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bailey Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Major difference between the old hardware look and the cleaned up hardware...did he paint it with something after bead blasting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted October 16, 2014 Author Share Posted October 16, 2014 He just coated it with an oil for the short term. My first order of business with the aluminum is to clean and prep for a chromate conversion coating that a friend is helping me with. Not sure what I'm going to do with the steel yet though. I'm sensing a recommendation... please Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickieaircraft Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Those must be two different parts. The hole is bigger on the shiny scratched one. I have heard good and bad things about shot peening (bead blasting). It creates a surface layer than has compressive stresses and resists crack propagation (good), but I seem to recall that bead blasting can also hide cracks in aluminum because it can "smoosh" the crack closed (bad). Some more info in http://www.metalimprovement.com//premium/PDF/greenbook_v9/english/MIC%20Green%20Book%20-%209th%20edition%20-%20Complete%20Book.pdf -Emron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Ashton Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 There is a difference between shot peening and bead blasting. BB is more of a cleaning process. SP changes the surface of the alloy. Quote -KentCozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Ashton Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Not sure what I'm going to do with the steel yet though. ) An epoxy primer and catalyzed topcoat of your choice will hold up well. With an epoxy primer, even a rattle-can topcoat will do well. Powder-coat if you want a more chip-resistant finish. 1 Quote -KentCozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Emron! I thought the same things regarding surface destruction, cracking, etc., but after more research I came to the conclusion that glass bead blasting was non-destructive, especially when done so the beads do not disintegrate. Attached is a picture of the 'before' piece (the 2nd piece was only shown for contrast, and was done later). Even with those other arguments until the bead blasting was offered I was close to moving forward with a mild abrasive blasting. I suspect this is one of those areas we builders talk and worry about that really isn't a concern -- especially when doing a top coat of some sort on the parts. I could be wrong. Kent, would you still recommend an epoxy paint over a chromate conversion coating assuming no difference in price (I have a good deal lined up)? I also thought the welds on all the pieces were very good FWIW. Thanks for the feedback, appreciated! Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Ashton Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 How did you finish the nice-looking ones? I have only used chromate conversion (Alodine) on aluminum pieces. Hang them in a jar of Alodine for a few minutes. For steel, I see that a chromate conversion can be used over zinc plating http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromate_conversion_coating but I don't think it does very much on bare steel. Your pieces, being a little chipped up, I would scotchbrite, sand, or wirewheel them to remove rust, epoxy-prime, and paint. That's about the easiest thing to do. Quote -KentCozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 There's no finish on the nice-looking parts yet. They're just coated with an oil for now, which I'll wash off before treating. All of the parts are now nice-looking (bead blasted). Thanks for the tips! I don't want to go crazy, just prevent oxidation... Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Gilbertson Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hi Jon, are you still thinking about selling the Q200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 1:29 PM, Peter Gilbertson said: Hi Jon, are you still thinking about selling the Q200 I am not selling my Tri-Q200 project, but yes, I do want to sell my unstarted Q2 kit. I'm not doing the Q2 kit because I have since acquired this separate Tri-Q200 project/refurb shown in this thread. Once that's flying I will move back to my Cozy IV project. Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony P Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Jon, I sent a PM to you regarding your Q2 kit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canard Fever Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 This kit still available for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted September 22, 2021 Author Share Posted September 22, 2021 For those interested, this pristine kit will soon be for sale and ready to ship. I need to inventory the parts, take current pictures, price, and crate for transportation. It does not have the LS1 carbon spar, but you can build a fiberglass equivalent known as the “Waddelow canard” (named after the first person that took that route). I have a finished Tri-Q200 I am restoring, and then a Cozy Mark IV to complete. I’d keep it as another project if I had the space, but I no longer want to have space for 3rd priority items. 🙂 Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony P Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I contacted you regarding this kit nearly a year ago now. I'm still interested. I have a Q2 now that I'm restoring. A little paint/faring work, but mainly interior and panel. Please keep me informed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crspy Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Looks like a fun project - hate to think what the shipping to Aus would be though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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