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I am interested in UL aircraft. The only UL canard I can find is the C.P. 150 Onyx. I can't seem to find anyone who has built one. I would appreciate any advice you expert canard enthusiasts can give me.

 

My question is....

 

1. Are there any other UL canards available? Plans or Kits?

 

2. Has anyone every built a Onyx? Besides C.P. himself?

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There's the Waspair Tomcat - but I'm only posting this as a warning. The Tomcat is an extremely dangerous aircraft. There are a few around and occasionally show up for sale - DON'T. It can and often does get into a spiral and doesn't have the control authority to get out.

 

The Pterdactyl is a pretty nice little airplane, Dave Froble (who builds them now) is a good guy. http://www.geocities.com/pterodactylclub/

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I have a Tomcat I hear all this rumor that they are not safe, is there any think i can do to upgrade them, I here they have spirral tendancies but all the accidnet reports i read its wither a crosswind or a tree that caused the crash. I am a pilot and have not flown it yet, Bob

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No, there aren't. They weren't valuable enough to spend time and money (and risk pilot's lives) to try to develop a fix. The problem is inherent in the control system.

 

You could try changing it to a conventional tail, but that would be building a whole new plane.

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These too.

 

And I REALLY dig that third one. It's reminiscent of the Waspair Tomcat.

 

Gary in Pennsylvania

You say that as if it's a good thing ;)

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Right... there's something about loosely covered tube and fabric ultralights that just doesn't make me feel comfortable either. Don't get me wrong -- ultralight canards are most definitely welcome here -- but I, at least, would need something that is VERY high quality before I would get in it. Looking at some of those pics I found myself wondering, "what if that thing came off?"


Jon Matcho :busy:
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Now:  Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E
Next:  Building a Cozy Mark IV

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There are people out there that have the nerve to fly in stuff like that? I need something around me to make me al least feel safe. STeve:D

Neighbor stopped by to see my progress, said it looked like a coffin. Ehhh.

Pilot buddy says the flying lawn chairs are pretty safe. He's also the one that hauls me around as ballast in his Citabria. I poke at the [3 mil?] fuse skin as we buzz around sideways at 5000 AGL.

 

And I hope to be flying at 200 MPH, with one layer of 3/8" foam holding my arse up, and keeping said arse away from the ground. Cool, ain't it :D

 

Oh, and a 180 HP Torque-O-matic engine strapped to said 3/8" piece of foam via a 1/4" sheet of plywood and a couple of strips of fiberglass ;)

 

Rick


Rick Hall; MK-IV plans #1477; cozy.zggtr.org

Build status: 1-7, bits of 8-9, 10, 14 done! Working on engine/prop/avionics.

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Rick:

 

You forgot to mention how many pieces of fiberglass those little 1/4" bolts pass through that are holding you skinny little arse up in the air. Lots and lots of fiberglass. Tell me how I know? My coffin is getting a wind shield soon. STeve


Steve Harmon

Lovin Life in Idaho

Cozy IV Plans #1466 N232CZ

http://websites.expercraft.com/bigsteve/

Working on Chapter 19,21

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Well said Steve. :D


Self confessed Wingnut.

Now think about it...wouldn't you rather LIVE your life, rather than watch someone else's, on Reality T.V.?

Get up off that couch!!! =)

 

Progress; Fuselage on all three, with outside and inside nearly complete. 8 inch extended nose. FHC done. Canard finished. ERacer wings done with blended winglets. IO540 starting rebuild. Mounting Spar. Starting strake ribs.

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coffins are larger...

MY Ul canard is ; 260#

has ladders for spars

4130 tube fuse

foam/ glass faced ribs

about 144sq ft area

43015 foil, both wings, all ribs are tha same

35hp

leaves the ground @ 36mph/ 125 ft, at 75 degrees f ,1000 ft air density

 

I am now building a floating fuse of folded aluminum/ foam/ glass faced float

I will have plans for the fuse soon.

Mike Ogren , FL.

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Your posting from Florida, and stating you are intending to do water landings by building a floating 'fuse' that is loosely similar to something called a coffin...makes me think you are going to provide a "One-Stop-Shop"/ service for the alligators when you land out there in the 'Glades.

Tell me it aint sooo....!!!!!:yikes: YOW! ;)

Theres a LOT of water in Florida- should be quite fun!:D


Self confessed Wingnut.

Now think about it...wouldn't you rather LIVE your life, rather than watch someone else's, on Reality T.V.?

Get up off that couch!!! =)

 

Progress; Fuselage on all three, with outside and inside nearly complete. 8 inch extended nose. FHC done. Canard finished. ERacer wings done with blended winglets. IO540 starting rebuild. Mounting Spar. Starting strake ribs.

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On 2/9/2007 at 1:36 AM, bvarga said:

I have a Tomcat I hear all this rumor that they are not safe, is there any think i can do to upgrade them, I here they have spirral tendancies but all the accidnet reports i read its wither a crosswind or a tree that caused the crash. I am a pilot and have not flown it yet, Bob

Hi Bob, I am currently making a documentary about a man who died in an accident in a Tomcat in 1981. I'd like to ask you some questions about the Tomcat if possible. The documentary is called Finding Claudio and the website is www.findingclaudio.com. Please contact me if you are interested info@findingclaudio.com, thanks

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5 hours ago, Curt Claudio said:

Hi Bob, I am currently making a documentary about a man who died in an accident in a Tomcat in 1981. I'd like to ask you some questions about the Tomcat if possible. The documentary is called Finding Claudio and the website is www.findingclaudio.com. Please contact me if you are interested info@findingclaudio.com, thanks

This is a thread from 2007.  BVarga last visited this site Feb, 2007 and made two posts.


-Kent
Cozy IV N13AM-750 hrs, Long-EZ-85 hrs and sold

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