Mynor M B Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hello everybody, does anybody knows how to do that nice looking fuel site gauges that looks like a clear plastic tube?, I have seen them in many EZs pictures and they look great, vary easy to read from the front seat. Can somebody tell me how to find them?. Thanks Quote _________________ Mynor M B Long EZ http://www.flyingez.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 They're made by Vance Atkinson. Here's his web site: http://home.comcast.net/~nostromo56/ Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynor M B Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 Hello Jon, thanks, these are exactly gauges the I was looking for, thank you very much. Cheeers. Quote _________________ Mynor M B Long EZ http://www.flyingez.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfryer Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 They're made by Vance Atkinson. Here's his web site: http://home.comcast.net/~nostromo56/ That link is now dead. Does are these sight gauges still available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rviglierchio Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Try these (may also be old....): Fuel Site gauges Vance Atkinson 817-354-8064 Vance Atkinson nostromo56@attbi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozy1200 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I tried that email last night and it too is dead. I may try calling him tonight. Quote Drew Chaplin (aka the Foam Whisperer) --- www.Cozy1200.com - I'm a builder now! --- Brace for impact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickh Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Wahoo! I can finaly contibute something useful www.atkinsonfuelgauges.com/ nostromo56 at tx dot rr dot com I mailed a check, got the gauges 5 days later. Rick Quote Rick Hall; MK-IV plans #1477; cozy.zggtr.org Build status: 1-7, bits of 8-9, 10, 14 done! Working on engine/prop/avionics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D. Wages Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Wahoo! I can finaly contibute something useful www.atkinsonfuelgauges.com/ nostromo56 at tx dot rr dot com I mailed a check, got the gauges 5 days later. Rick Wow! I'm glad I bought mine ahead of time. It looks like the prices have gone up since I bought mine. I don't think he even had a website when I bought them. When I called, his wife (I believe that's who I was talking to), told me to send him $45.00, and in just a few days I had them sitting in my cabinet waiting for installation. BTW, that's where they are still! Good luck to you, Rick. Quote Best Regards, John D. Wages N694CZ (reserved) http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/johnwages/default.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge 513 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 45.00 to 55. for unassembled-not too bad of an increase. Unless he sent them as the assembled version for 45. I would think the lighted version would be possibly useful. The assembly is no big deal. I think having these installed as backups are a good idea, to the capacitor/ I.P.fuel gauge L+R units. They might be a bit overkill to just having the 'glass laid up as the fuel window- if used as backups. Wjat thnk? Quote Self confessed Wingnut. Now think about it...wouldn't you rather LIVE your life, rather than watch someone else's, on Reality T.V.? Get up off that couch!!! =) Progress; Fuselage on all three, with outside and inside nearly complete. 8 inch extended nose. FHC done. Canard finished. ERacer wings done with blended winglets. IO540 starting rebuild. Mounting Spar. Starting strake ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfryer Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Wahoo! I can finaly contibute something useful www.atkinsonfuelgauges.com/ nostromo56 at tx dot rr dot com I mailed a check, got the gauges 5 days later. Rick Awesome! Thanks for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfryer Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Wahoo! I can finaly contibute something useful www.atkinsonfuelgauges.com/ nostromo56 at tx dot rr dot com I mailed a check, got the gauges 5 days later. Rick Awesome! Thanks for the link! I was at first going to go with the plans method but I am using EZ-Poxy which has a pretty yellow tint to it and I don't think the resulting gauge would be very readable. I also would like to have a couple of electrical gauges, but do I understand corectly that it can be difficult to find a location for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D. Wages Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I also would like to have a couple of electrical gauges, but do I understand corectly that it can be difficult to find a location for them? There are sensors and/or probes that are solid state and should be quite easily adaptable to our airplanes. Here's just one example for you to consider: http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=428/index.html I'm going to install my sight guages as well as fuel probes. That way, on those days when the ol' arthritis is actin' up, I'll rely on the probes rather than having to turn my head to such a degree that I inadvertently inflict an undo amount of pain upon myself. "Know what uh mean, Verne?" Quote Best Regards, John D. Wages N694CZ (reserved) http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/johnwages/default.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macleodm3 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I would think the lighted version would be possibly useful.Yeah, I think so too. I didn't purchase the lighted versions, but instead bought two 12v LED's at Radio Shack. The gauges don't really fit properly in a Cozy IV without sanding away some of the upper foam spacer. If you don't sand it away, it appears to me that the bottom of the fuel site gauges will be below the bottom of the strake. Anyway, here' a picture of what I did to get them to fit. Quote Andrew Anunson I work underground and I play in the sky... no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Hicks Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 I also would like to have a couple of electrical gauges, but do I understand corectly that it can be difficult to find a location for them? ---> Not at all! I installed capacitance probes under the cosmetic strake fairings. Quote Wayne Hicks Cozy IV Plans #678 http://www.ez.org/pages/waynehicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviator_edb Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Wayne, out of curiosity (Total noob). How do you calibrate a capacitance probe? Do you basically add 1 gallon of fuel, record the probe output, add another gallan, record output again..and so on until full. Then input that somewhere to create a best fit curve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynn Erickson Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Wayne, out of curiosity (Total noob). How do you calibrate a capacitance probe? Do you basically add 1 gallon of fuel, record the probe output, add another gallan, record output again..and so on until full. Then input that somewhere to create a best fit curve? That is the way it is done if you have the type with a programable readout. there are simple types the are not scaleable. on the vision micro system you scale to every 2 gallons. Quote Evolultion Eze RG -a two place side by side-200 Knots on 200 HP. A&P / pilot for over 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozy1200 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Not meaning to beat a dead horse until it's bloody.... If I'm planning to install Vances gauge flat. What size and depth of an impression should I cut out before glassing the inside? Maybe his instructions lays this out, but I neglected to buy them ahead of time. I don't plan to install them until later and didn't think I needed them yet. What I didn't think about was reading the directions ahead of time. If someone would fax or email me a copy, I'd gladly send Vance a check today for what's rightfully his. Being in OZ, it would be a couple weeks to receive them and I'll be glassing the inside within the next few days. Quote Drew Chaplin (aka the Foam Whisperer) --- www.Cozy1200.com - I'm a builder now! --- Brace for impact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickh Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 If I'm planning to install Vances gauge flat. What size and depth of an impression should I cut out before glassing the inside? Large enough to hold his gauges! Attached is a shot. If you get them unassembled, you epoxy the clear plastic to the white plastic (shown as sorta brown in the attachment cuz it still has the protective cover sheet), trim to fit, flox to the fuselage side, then a 2 ply BID wrap. There's two holes on the white plastic that get a hollow 'rivet' in each hole at assembly. I assume this rivet is to sleeve any foam in a retro install. The C to C of the rivet holes is 5 7/16". The white plastic is 2.375 x 7.25". Bubble is 1 x 5.875" and approx .25" tall. Total thick is ~ .437" Overall (it gets trimmed) is 2.912 x 7.562". Rick Quote Rick Hall; MK-IV plans #1477; cozy.zggtr.org Build status: 1-7, bits of 8-9, 10, 14 done! Working on engine/prop/avionics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozy1200 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Fantastic, that's what I was looking for. What is thickness of the white piece and flat lexan? I'm looking for how deep to set it into the foam. I'm assuming the .437" is from teh back of the white to the tip of the round.lexan Quote Drew Chaplin (aka the Foam Whisperer) --- www.Cozy1200.com - I'm a builder now! --- Brace for impact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickh Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Fantastic, that's what I was looking for. What is thickness of the white piece and flat lexan? I'm looking for how deep to set it into the foam.White plastic backer: .125"Clear plastic front: .090" (it varies a few thousanths) The destructions say when you glue the two halves together, not to clamp. So add a bit for the glue line. I'm assuming the .437" is from teh back of the white to the tip of the round.lexanIf I'm using my bad eye, sorry. Overall thick with the calipers is .50" +/- So if I read you right, if you depress the foam .205" plus ?? for the flox bedding, plus 2 ply BID perimiter, only the bubble will protrude, no step at the edges. Sweet! Why didn't I think of that Rick Quote Rick Hall; MK-IV plans #1477; cozy.zggtr.org Build status: 1-7, bits of 8-9, 10, 14 done! Working on engine/prop/avionics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge 513 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Drew, It sounds like you are just going to almost surface mount them. Most guys are recessing the foam all the way back to the outer skin of the fuse with a nifty mounting area. I was told by someone to wait to install them until the strakes are in, and that kinda made sense to me. FWIW Quote Self confessed Wingnut. Now think about it...wouldn't you rather LIVE your life, rather than watch someone else's, on Reality T.V.? Get up off that couch!!! =) Progress; Fuselage on all three, with outside and inside nearly complete. 8 inch extended nose. FHC done. Canard finished. ERacer wings done with blended winglets. IO540 starting rebuild. Mounting Spar. Starting strake ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozy1200 Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Thanks rick, that's what I was looking for. Next time I may even order parts ahead of time to have a reference. Maybe my forehead won't be so bruised from banging it against the wall!. Quote Drew Chaplin (aka the Foam Whisperer) --- www.Cozy1200.com - I'm a builder now! --- Brace for impact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickh Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Thanks rick, that's what I was looking for. Next time I may even order parts ahead of time to have a reference. Maybe my forehead won't be so bruised from banging it against the wall!. I'm tending to go with Edge. (there I go flipping an a floppin again...) I recessed the foam a bit larger than the plans (the gauges do need it), but will wait for final install til the strakes stage. Possibility to further recess the gauge, make an angled mount extending into the strake a bit, ... Rick Quote Rick Hall; MK-IV plans #1477; cozy.zggtr.org Build status: 1-7, bits of 8-9, 10, 14 done! Working on engine/prop/avionics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZUCZZ Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 I'll agree with "wait till the strakes are in" mostly because you will be able to adjust for any inaccuracies. Having said that - the plans work - everything ends up in the right place anyway Quote I live in my own little world! but its OK, they know me here! Chris Van Hoof, Johannesburg, South Africa operate from FASY (Baragwanath) Cozy Mk IV, ZU-CZZ, IO-360 (200hp) 70x80 prop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Another possibility as far as site guage location is just inside the strake (where the strake opening meets the fuse.) It has a plus and a minus. The plus is it is a better angle to view. The minus is it could get covered by baggage. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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