dust Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 ok after Dan Tomlinson mentioned taking his dogs in the plane i thought i would bring up a subject of my dowg. He will be going with us most of the time, how the heck do i oxegenate him at 25000?? enjoy the build mike Quote maker wood dust and shavings - foam and fiberglass dust and one day a cozy will pop out, enjoying the build i can be reached at http://www.canardcommunity.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Tomlinson Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 I don't often go that high - of course in a Cessna it's not usually possible! I suspect it would be rare to be above 12 for most trips - even in the Cozy, as the climb/cruise/descent profile I've seen looks like about 500 miles is the break-even for 12-14. And about 16 for an 800 mile leg. I've used westbound (always a headwind) using "default" upper winds. This is what I'm seeing out of Flitesoft Pro. Quote /dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dust Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 well, but what if i can hold full cruise power to 25000 ?? is that hard to look at in your program? enjoy the build mike Quote maker wood dust and shavings - foam and fiberglass dust and one day a cozy will pop out, enjoying the build i can be reached at http://www.canardcommunity.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowlersaid Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Happy Dog? Ok, I believe that the dog will be unable to "run about" at angels25 But, if u build him or her a "cage" that would be enclosed to the extent that some small positive pressures could be maintained inside his capsule with ox flow. We just have to have him in a more rich ox environment than is available at that altitude. A doggie "box" of sorts. Clamp his bottle on top and your good to go. Sort of doggie cannula My thoughts... Quote The plane that travels thousands of miles begins with a few small steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No4 Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Thats a really good idea Bowlersaid! Might I go one step further and suggest pressurisation? I know some light twins get their pressurisation from a turbocharger. I think keeping the box at 8,000 feet altitude at 20,000 feet wouldn't require much "bleed air"; with a hose from the turbo. How often are you planning to take the dog? I'd suggest staying below 10,000 on those occasions. I can remember seeing a photo of a scuba diving dog from about 20 years ago. It had a big fish bowl helmet. Something like that or a mask would probably send the mutt off it's rocker. Quote The Coconut King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleturtle Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 You could try this... But may I suggest doggie ox is the least of your problems on a 4 hour flight? I for one don't want to look in back and go "EEEWWWWWWWWWWW"!!! doggieox2.bmp Quote This ain't rocket surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Hicks Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Your dog won't be going up above 17,500 feet (going east) without an instrument rating and an IFR flight plan. Your dog won't be going up that high without a better fur coat! Oxygen will be the least of his (her?) worries. :-) ...Wayne Hicks Quote Wayne Hicks Cozy IV Plans #678 http://www.ez.org/pages/waynehicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dust Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 well, it looks like the doggy mask will be the way to go, and maybe an elec blanket. How will they know if i am over 17500 ifin i dont turn on a transponder, I am building this plane because of it's stealthyness enjoy the build Mike Quote maker wood dust and shavings - foam and fiberglass dust and one day a cozy will pop out, enjoying the build i can be reached at http://www.canardcommunity.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleturtle Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 ... it would be alot more stealthy if you didn't have that big heavy clunky hunk of air cooled metal hanging out the back! Quote This ain't rocket surgery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macleodm3 Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 Dust, See if your dawg's vet will order you a mask used to anesthetize dawgs. You can try calling 1-800-847-1000 and see if they'll sell ya one (got curious and did a yahoo search). Now ya just have to decide what mixture of gasses to use... Quote Andrew Anunson I work underground and I play in the sky... no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dust Posted January 21, 2004 Author Share Posted January 21, 2004 great stuff thanks enjoy the build mike Quote maker wood dust and shavings - foam and fiberglass dust and one day a cozy will pop out, enjoying the build i can be reached at http://www.canardcommunity.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmacon Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 New to the forum, not even a dog-owner, but remembered a news-nugget that might be helpful to the folks talking about flying their pets up high: Saw a news blurb during the So. CA wildfires about several San Mateo paramedic/fire crews having dog-nose shaped masks for O2. Here's the best link I could find: http://peninsulahumanesociety.org/resource/oxygen_masks.html Hope this helps - good luck with the pooches! Quote Bob Macon Plans #1242 N808RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Tomlinson Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 well, but what if i can hold full cruise power to 25000 ?? is that hard to look at in your program? No - it's not. It's just a matter of setting up climb rates + Vx Vy etc and cruise speeds at various altitudes and power levels. You can also do it at different weights, but that is usually "noise" at that point. I've used it for many flights in 3 different AC types, and it is pretty good. It basically takes all the time-to-climb, time/rate to descend, speed at altitude etc info into account that long cross-country flight planning calculations from the Private and Commercial licenses, and does it all at computer speed. Quote /dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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