SAF_Zoom Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Flying installation in a Long EZ Anyboby know this guy ? http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php Just scroll down in the experimental section (he is not in the Long EZ section) Here are some pictures http://www.barnstormers.com/listing_images.php?id=338558&ZOOM=/classified_files/338558-GN-landing.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwalker Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Flying installation in a Long EZ Anyboby know this guy ? Holy Rusted Metal Batman! I wonder if that thing flies like a Texan! (100% throttle causes over rotation)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longez360 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Have seen pictures on airliners.net of this amazing New Zealand based aircraft. Are there any successful long term rotary installations in EZ types? Quote Cheers, Wayne Blackler IO-360 Long EZ VH-WEZ (N360WZ) Melbourne, AUSTRALIA http://v2.ez.org/feature/F0411-1/F0411-1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Have seen pictures on airliners.net of this amazing New Zealand based aircraft. Are there any successful long term rotary installations in EZ types? I know Perry Mick (Eccentric) has over 700 hours on his rotary installation.He seems to feel extremely confident in the reliability judging by the places he's flown it. http://www.mickaircraft.com/duckt.htm Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longez360 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 It's great to see the Experimental category being explored so well. Perry is one of those guys that walks the walk. I watched Perry fly his ducted fan version when I lived in Seattle during a small canard group fly-in in 2002. That set-up was certainly not successful - EXTREMELY loud and reasonably slow for the fuel burn. I work with Ron Ligeti (anyone recall his father Charles' Ligeti Stratos) - it used a reasonably successful ducted fan on the first prototype. With the duct gone, early performance was 172 mph TAS at 8.8gph which seems inefficient for an equivalent power Long EZ? Then the addition of some better wheelpants. What performance is he getting now? Quote Cheers, Wayne Blackler IO-360 Long EZ VH-WEZ (N360WZ) Melbourne, AUSTRALIA http://v2.ez.org/feature/F0411-1/F0411-1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 What performance is he getting now?Don't know. Just know he keeps getting spotted all over the place. He did it before there was much in the way of support. Very impressive. As far as the Ducted Fan ........ I'm glad somebody tried it. I always was curious as to how effective that would be at our scale. When it comes to a 600HP 20B ........ no thanks. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eccentric Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 It's great to see the Experimental category being explored so well. Perry is one of those guys that walks the walk. I watched Perry fly his ducted fan version when I lived in Seattle during a small canard group fly-in in 2002. That set-up was certainly not successful - EXTREMELY loud and reasonably slow for the fuel burn. I work with Ron Ligeti (anyone recall his father Charles' Ligeti Stratos) - it used a reasonably successful ducted fan on the first prototype. With the duct gone, early performance was 172 mph TAS at 8.8gph which seems inefficient for an equivalent power Long EZ? Then the addition of some better wheelpants. What performance is he getting now? Hi Wayne, good to hear from you. Hope your bird is doing well. The ducted fan was loud because of the fan tip speed. It's the same engine installation now but it's much quieter. People say it sounds about like any other airplane. I don't have a muffler installed. My engine is running rich best power all the time. Probably 12.5:1 air-fuel. Throttle control only, no lean control. The ECU has an atmospheric pressure sensor and automatically compensates for altitude. No issues up to 14,000 feet - haven't been higher yet. The ECU still thinks it's in a car. Others have had great success leaning the rotary. I built an electronic circuit to manipulate the signal from the airflow sensor before presenting it to the ECU for lean control. It did work but I removed it to increase the control range and haven't re-installed it yet. That's the status as of now. I'm just flying these days and not modifying. The fuel burn doesn't bother me since I burn mogas and the price came back down since last summer's peak. The advantage of having the lean control would be to extend the range, that is already considerable. 720 hours TT. July 19 will be the 10th anniversary of first flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windwalker Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hi Wayne, good to hear from you. Hope your bird is doing well. The ducted fan was loud because of the fan tip speed. It's the same engine installation now but it's much quieter. People say it sounds about like any other airplane. I don't have a muffler installed. Your plane is nowhere near as loud as the Pawnee. Actually, When I have seen you fly your bird has been pretty quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I know Perry Mick (Eccentric) has over 700 hours on his rotary installation. He seems to feel extremely confident in the reliability judging by the places he's flown it. http://www.mickaircraft.com/duckt.htm i found tracys 20b on you tube Quote Steve M. Parkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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