TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Here ya go! Put your mods here: I'll start it ...... add wheel pants. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-eze Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Open question... Would the nose lift be a must have mod? If so any preferences to manufacture? Quote Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 I went with the EZ Noselift (www.eznoselift.com) I think it is one of the better designs. Jack has a lot of info on his site. Some will argue that the advantage of the stock manual lift is that if you need to make an emergency stop, when you start to lower the gear it will strip out dropping the nose to the ground. The advantage of the nose lift is you can raise the nose while you are seated in the plane. The other thing to consider is availability. Can you even get the manual system? While you're at it, consider the electric trim systems that are available. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Swenson Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 internal sumps electronic ignition fuel injection wayne canopy (for a CozyMIV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Seeing as I'm in the middle of doing my canard over..... The plans call for cutting 4 profiles. Two outboard measuring 11 inches with no spar trough. Two inboard at 54 inches each with the spar trough. Instead of this, I cut two cores measuring 65 inches and ran the spar the full length. Saves time and makes for a straight alignment (no tip droop.) Does not save weight. Some minor trimming may be needed to clar the counter balance weight but it should clear without having to do this. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Almost forgot ........ the #1 mod! A longer nose. I added roughly 12 inches to mine. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Morrison Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I best not post on this thread. Jack E Racer Extreme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfryer Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I best not post on this thread. Jack E Racer Extreme Too late..... Instead of this, I cut two cores measuring 65 inches and ran the spar the full length. Saves time and makes for a straight alignment (no tip droop.) I am not quite sure why you did that, tip droop? I didn't get anything that I would consider drooping tips. Seems to me that the extra spar cap material will add some unnecessary weight. I am also a little curious as to why you are rebuilding your canard, what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 I best not post on this thread. Jack E Racer Extreme Ha, ha haaaaaaaa! That's rich Jack. I'm afraid some heads will implode once you have your bird flying. I can't wait to see it in paint! Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 I am not quite sure why you did that, tip droop? I didn't get anything that I would consider drooping tips. Seems to me that the extra spar cap material will add some unnecessary weight. I am also a little curious as to why you are rebuilding your canard, what happened? As previously stated..... it does not save weight. The main reason I rejected the canard was do to the inconsistancy of the top profile of the canard. I don't have a tech consultant to work with in my EAA chapter (they are all aluminum guys) so that leaves me to put on that hat. It's not the first time I've redone a part, but I know my weight and shape will be an improvement over what I had. Wayne Hicks canard came in at 22 lbs ........... the second time around. Good role model. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfryer Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Wayne Hicks canard came in at 22 lbs ........... the second time around. Good role model. That's encouraging, so did mine (the first time) . Good luck with your second attempt. I really hate doing things twice, but I suppose it's better play it safe than to accept a part you are not confident with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 That's encouraging, so did mine (the first time) . Good luck with your second attempt. I really hate doing things twice, but I suppose it's better play it safe than to accept a part you are not confident with. The quality standards at Mann's Airplane Factory are very high!Yeah ....... if you look at CPs 25 & 26, it makes 22lb seem heavy. If it wasn't for the antenna in the canard, I would be using Carbon Fiber for both the spar caps and skin. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Hicks Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 My canard -- my first and only canard I've built to date -- weighed 22 pounds after Chapter 10. No tips or elevators attached. I did build a second canopy. Quote Wayne Hicks Cozy IV Plans #678 http://www.ez.org/pages/waynehicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge 513 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hey Longeze'rs. I have heard of folks wanting a bit WIDER Longeze, but not stretching the thing. Whats up with that? Is that a fairly desired thing, if given the chance to alter in new construction? Disregard this post. Saw the discussion on the other thread. Quote Self confessed Wingnut. Now think about it...wouldn't you rather LIVE your life, rather than watch someone else's, on Reality T.V.? Get up off that couch!!! =) Progress; Fuselage on all three, with outside and inside nearly complete. 8 inch extended nose. FHC done. Canard finished. ERacer wings done with blended winglets. IO540 starting rebuild. Mounting Spar. Starting strake ribs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 -- my first and only canard I've built to date --Sorry for the misquote Wayne. I was looking at the OAF section on the elevators, not the canard. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-eze Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK, Just to keep track... 1.Wheel pants 2.Nose lift - why will the gear strip because of an emerg stop? 3.Long nose Are the large rudder and internal bellcranks now common or would they be considered mods? Quote Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Swenson Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The nose gear hand crank gearing mechanism was only meant to see the loads of actually lowering or raising the gear---not the weight of the aircraft. With the original system, if you need the additional stopping power of skidding on your nose, you can attempt to raise the gear which will shear the teeth---and the nose will be skidding. This all happens rather quickly. If you have electric gear, then the time to get the nose on the ground will be 10 or so second. One good thing with the electric gear is that in the event of losing one brake, yo can "burp" the gear up for about a second which will straighten the nose wheel. If you were aligned with the runway, that is good news---if you were already heading off the side, then you just may get there quicker:) For a longez, I'd rather put money elsewhere than in the nose gear. For a Cozy, I'll take the electric gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 OK, Just to keep track... 1.Wheel pants Won't need them if you go with retracts2.Nose lift - why will the gear strip because of an emerg stop?The manual gear system will not support the weight of the pilot. You have to get out to raise and lower the gear on the ground. If you try to lower the gear while in the plane and on the ground, the foces will be greater than what the gear can withstand and it will strip dropping the nose to the ground and thus skidding to a stop.3.Long noseThere are some drawings on www.ez.org that Tony has done that will make for a good starting point. Review those first. Are the large rudder and internal bellcranks now common or would they be considered mods? Yes and Yes. If you are considering the blended winglet then the hidden belcrank becomes moot. There are many things that many builders have done to personalize their aircraft. The hinge point of the canopy, retractable step, electric actuator on the landing brake, downdraft cooling, Adjustable Rudder Pedals, Foward Master Cylinders, Larger Strakes, GIB Thigh Support/Sump, Rear Throttle Quadrant, Rollover Structure, In-Wing Landing Lights, .............. You get the Idea. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpolenek Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 cloaking device Quote Joe Cozy Mk IV #1550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 cloaking device Well yeah ....... that's important (especially if the wife isn't aware of the project. ) Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gullikson Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Just got my Long-EZ wing cores from Eureka with the entire trailing edge straight rather than the dog leg the plans trailing edge takes from BL 55.5 to BL 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozy Girrrl Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Just got my Long-EZ wing cores from Eureka with the entire trailing edge straight rather than the dog leg the plans trailing edge takes from BL 55.5 to BL 23. Greg, was this as you ordered them or a misunderstanding in the parts delivered?...Chrissi Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gullikson Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Greg, was this as you ordered them or a misunderstanding in the parts delivered? ...Chrissi Hi Chrissi,Exactly as ordered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cozy Girrrl Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hi Chrissi, Exactly as ordered! Oh good, was worried that there was a mixup....Chrissi Quote CG Products www.CozyGirrrl.com Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B Turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Hicks Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'm curious. Without a dog leg in the wing trailing edges, how will your wing roots interface to the pre-fabbed cowls? Or will you be making your own? Quote Wayne Hicks Cozy IV Plans #678 http://www.ez.org/pages/waynehicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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