Crazycanuck Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Please forgive that I am a bit of a noobie here. I was reading the plans for my Cozy last night and it said something about forgoing a starter motor and hand proping the engine in order the save weight. Do builders actually do this? I am just trying to figure out how I would convince my wife to start a 360"^3 engine by hand while I operate the throttle from safely within the cabin. I can't see it happening. Quote Crazy Canuck Toronto, Ontario, Canada Cozy MKIV #MK1536 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMann Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Buy a starter and a treadmill. That's what I did. Quote T Mann - Loooong-EZ/20B Infinity R/G Chpts 18 Velocity/RG N951TM Mann's Airplane Factory We add rocket's to everything! 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 9, 10, 14, 19, 20 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Hicks Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 Some sections of the Cozy IV plans were copied and pasted from the Cozy III plans, which were copied and pasted from the Cosy plans, which were copied and pasted from the Long-EZ plans, which were copied and pasted from the VariEze plans. It was recommended that VariEzes forego starters and hand-prop to save weight. When you buy your IV plans and start building Chapter 4, don't get discouraged when it takes you 60+ hours to build the bulkheads when the plans say you should complete them in 25 hours. Quote Wayne Hicks Cozy IV Plans #678 http://www.ez.org/pages/waynehicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycanuck Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 When I was a kid my dad lost part of his thumb to a radio control airplane. That was only a 0.25"^3 engine so I found the suggestion of hand proping a 360"^3 engine a little odd. It is a little like that game that we all used to play as kids of slapping the backside of a bull and then running for the fence. Ahhh, fun memories. Quote Crazy Canuck Toronto, Ontario, Canada Cozy MKIV #MK1536 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D. Wages Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 It is a little like that game that we all used to play as kids of slapping the backside of a bull and then running for the fence. Ahhh, fun memories. Wow!...and I thought life in Mississippi was fun all those years ago! For those of you who have never heard of Bull Slapping, check this out... Yes... Mississippi..."Where men are men, and sheep are nervous" Quote Best Regards, John D. Wages N694CZ (reserved) http://www.maddyhome.com/canardpages/pages/johnwages/default.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Steve Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Yes people do build canards without starters. I built and flew my Longeze without a starter. I got really good at hand propping my 0235. I have no Idea how hard it would be to pull and 0360 through though. I plan on a starter this time around but I am going to hand prop it to start it occasionally it is a good way to keep and eye on your motor. STeve Quote Steve Harmon Lovin Life in Idaho Cozy IV Plans #1466 N232CZ http://websites.expercraft.com/bigsteve/ Working on Chapter 19,21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelj Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I recall that to "legally" prop an airplane a licenced pilot must be at the controls. Having said that not very many people have seen me prop an airplane in an alternate method. I did have one , eye opener years ago. When I had an 0200 powered C150 I usually rotated the prop to the horizontal in order to push or pull it across the ramp. One time I used one hand to rotate the prop and evidently passed TDC. The motor caught and started! Needless to say I was disappointed in myself and took the proper precautions thereafter. Personally, I think an airplane without a starter is a loaded gun. I have propped an airplane many times but only when the situation necessitated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Zeitlin Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I recall that to "legally" prop an airplane a licenced pilot must be at the controls.That's not correct. There is no FAR that requires either two people or a pilot to hand prop a plane. It's certainly smart to have two people, and good if one is at least familiar with the controls, if not a pilot, but it's not a requirement. Quote Marc J. Zeitlin Burnside Aerospace marc_zeitlin@alum.mit.edu www.cozybuilders.org copyright © 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazycanuck Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 I think I will be installing a starter on my plane and looking some where else to save weight. Titanium nuts and bolts perhaps? Quote Crazy Canuck Toronto, Ontario, Canada Cozy MKIV #MK1536 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argoldman Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I think I will be installing a starter on my plane and looking some where else to save weight. Titanium nuts and bolts perhaps? just leave out the battery and the radios:p Quote I Canardly contain myself! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Swenson Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Now that you have the starter, you will need the battery and radios to balance the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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