Hans S Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 When it comes to the Defiant, how is it better than the Cozy IV? I realize that it is larger inside, but as I've never seen one in person and I can't picture it. According to the spec sheets it seems to be 2 feet wider wing tip to wing tip. Six feet longer, is that right? I can't seem to find fuel consumption numbers that are consistent for either plane either. I've found the Defiant runs about 17gph and the cozy is at 6gph, that seems like a huge difference in performance. My plan is to use turboed 13Bs for either plane, from the HP I should be able to fly the defiant on just one if needed and cruise at less than 50% if using both. The 13Bs will be roughly 300HP, if I've read some other pages right. Is it really going to be worth the extra build time? And what is the average build time for a Defiant. I've read 6000hrs, but I can't see it being that much larger than the avg 2000hr Cozy. I'm looking to do some trans atlantic flying at some point and would rather have a back up engine just in case. If I could slap two engines on a Cozy, I think I'd be happy, but I haven't found any info on that being done. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mak790 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 If I could slap two engines on a Cozy, I think I'd be happy, but I haven't found any info on that being done. I dont have any info about 2 engines Cozy but I've seen 2 engines Long Ez maybe you can try this same way. Unfortunately I dont have any info besides these pictures. Mak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satch Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 As I recall (and not sure where I got this, so "consider the source"), the builder of that twin was ultimately unsatisfied w/ performance and it became a single again ... not many (if any) more knots, lots more gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiki Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 If I could slap two engines on a Cozy, I think I'd be happy, but I haven't found any info on that being done. Thanks Here's what your looking for then. It's only a quick sketch by myself, not much thought gone into it and I never intended to build it. Just fooling around, but it would be pretty cool. http://www.canardzone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1735 Quote Adrian Smart Cozy IV #1453 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Hicks Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Click here for the Defiant Group Website. Quote Wayne Hicks Cozy IV Plans #678 http://www.ez.org/pages/waynehicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Matcho Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Ack! That site is a mess, pop-ups, too many banners, ick. I've never seen it before and hope to never again. I think this is a much better representation of the "Defiant Group": http://groups.yahoo.com/group/defiantflyers/ Quote Jon Matcho Builder & Canard Zone Admin Now: Rebuilding Quickie Tri-Q200 N479E Next: Resume building a Cozy Mark IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans S Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 I think I like the Gemini idea. Single cylinder / turbo rotary, 100-150 HP. One on each end. Hmmm. Add fuel tank in front of rear engine for some extra weight back there to bring back the CG, not to mention relocate all the nose stuff to the back. Anyone have more info on that Gemini? I still want to go 4in wider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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